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Old 01-26-11, 01:40 PM
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PICTURE QUIZ : guess the component

Take this

and add this

plus a few of these

and what is the result?
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its the Simplex SELEMATIC 5 !


its on ebay right now (not mine) if someone is really into that sort of thing.
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love it.
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It looks like it requires batteries.
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Originally Posted by gaucho777
It looks like it requires batteries.
Nope, no batteries.
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I want it just to open it up and reverse engineer it.
Essentially the lever for this unit would be modern "rapid-fire" in one control lever.
Pull it and shift down, it returns to its neutral position after the mech ratchets the cage out one step and is ready for its next input.
Push the lever and shift up, the rotating cable stop on the mech turns the opposite direction and ratchets the cage inwards one notch.
Its like an STI lever before indexed shifting was established.
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a bear claw then a refrigerator.. the thread was looking good.

no link? that will look so good on my Bianchi
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Oooohhh there must have been a rush to buy those when they came out!.........funny we don't see too many of them anymore...
Wondering about the body on that RD...Plastic or Aluminum....either way, it must be bad cause it either cracked after a short time of use or it's as heavy as a door stop.
Frankly, I'd still want one as a conversation piece!

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Any bike with that derailleur on would need a pair of these to stop it!
(Weinmann Turbo centre pull brake, kindly donated by Viscount)
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It slices, it dices, it's Ronco!
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oh baby yes!

I love these supremely odd and complicated solutions that people have actually produced over the years. Some Day I'll build a bike with just the weirdest components I can find.

I love some of the really old quirky stuff like the Osgear system


or the Overhill Gear
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I remember coming across that on the disrali site, but the photo on the site its super mis leading, I never realized it was the size of an outlet electrical box... and those brake calipers!
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Will it hold a six-pack and keep it cold?

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Originally Posted by Oldpeddaller








Any bike with that derailleur on would need a pair of these to stop it!
(Weinmann Turbo centre pull brake, kindly donated by Viscount)
Dang!, I wouldn't think Weinmann can make those any uglier.......Those Swiss Weinmann Engineers could have at least maybe rounded out a few edges on that caliper frame! Must be their "Teutonic", design values kicking in.
BTW, I think there's even a half cooked version of that caliper (A non-"HP" version??)where only one pad moves inward toward the rim and the other one was fixed. Kinda similar to cheaper sliding caliper brakes on cars and some motorcycles, but much simpler. Imagine trying to keep that one centered.
By the way Oldpeddaller, if you ever want to sell those Weinmann Turbos, I might be interested. I'm kinda on a Weinmann odd brakeset binge these days!

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Originally Posted by PDXaero
I want it just to open it up and reverse engineer it.
Essentially the lever for this unit would be modern "rapid-fire" in one control lever.
Pull it and shift down, it returns to its neutral position after the mech ratchets the cage out one step and is ready for its next input.
Push the lever and shift up, the rotating cable stop on the mech turns the opposite direction and ratchets the cage inwards one notch.
Its like an STI lever before indexed shifting was established.
Agreed. I like the concept, it's the execution that leaves... a bit to be desired.

Same for the Weinmann Turbo. Neat concept, horrific looking results. (Though I'd pick a set out of a bucket just for the hyper-utilitarian/industrial look.)
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i want one:

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Originally Posted by zaphod beeblebrox
oh baby yes!

I love these supremely odd and complicated solutions that people have actually produced over the years. Some day i'll build a bike with just the weirdest components i can find.

I love some of the really old quirky stuff like the osgear system


or the overhill gear
i am going to have nitemares now
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Originally Posted by Oldpeddaller
Any bike with that derailleur on would need a pair of these to stop it!
(Weinmann Turbo centre pull brake, kindly donated by Viscount)
I didn't think it could be, kept looking for a pivot, but then I found this diagram.

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Screw that!
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
no link? that will look so good on my Bianchi
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Originally Posted by PDXaero
Take this

and add this

plus a few of these

and what is the result?
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Obviously
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its the Simplex SELEMATIC 5 !


its on ebay right now (not mine) if someone is really into that sort of thing.
At least the bottom half is metallic. This design makes me think someone in engineering found the old machinery for the spiral springs or a big stash of them and found the idea charming, now the pull per gear is probably linear, which makes it easier than figuring out the displacement of a parallelogram. That and it avoids the Suntour patent. Anybody know when this one was marketed? I have never seen it before.
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Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co
Screw that!
I'm not positive, but I believe that's more or less the way that mechanical disc brakes function.

Originally Posted by repechage
Anybody know when this one was marketed?
Disraeli Gears says 1981.
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I'm still waiting for someone to report how well the HP-Turbo brakes function.

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100 dollars... bummer. It would be fun to own... for much less than 100 dollars! I want to see what it looks like without the plastic cover, if it even comes off.

Thanks for posting this, very funny!
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Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co
Screw that!
I think that is the basis of the BB -7 Avid modern disk brake caliper, except with ball bearings.
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