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Old 02-01-11, 11:27 AM   #1
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SunTour GPX group from my Bridgestone RB-1 - keep it or sell it?

I acquired a 1990 Bridgestone RB-1 last year in nearly-new condition. It even had the original Bridgestone tires on it. It also came with the stock RB-1 group for that year, which was Suntour GPX cranks, shifters, brakes, freewheel, and chain. Headset was a Hatta Vesta. Wheels were Sansin hubs laced to Wolber rims.

since then, I switched up the groupset to N.O.S. Shimano Sante, with Sante hubs and Mavic Open Pro rims. I kept the original Sugino seatpost, Suntour BB, and Nitto bars. The switch made a great bike into my favorite bike. I don't have any intention of changing the group again. Sante is so awesome!

So now I'm sitting on the original group set and I'm not sure if I should keep it or sell it off. It's all in good condition and I think I could get $200-300 for it. On the other hand, I was thinking that if I ever sold the RB-1, maybe a collector would value it more with all the original parts.

Opinions? Is it worth holding onto or selling? Does it matter that much to collectors? GPX is not exactly in demand these days.


Here's my B-Stone with the Sante group...
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Old 02-01-11, 11:36 AM   #2
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great looking bike. I see you got lucky and got Sante shifters too.
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GPX is not in demand, but it is becoming harder and harder to find. Super functional group. Just hang onto that stuff. If you feel like it's just taking up space, get another bike and put that stuff on
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Not sure if you can get $200-$300 without someone who "has to have it," but it is nice stuff. That's 7-sp DA money.

Value would increase by including the rear freewheel with the shifters, since they are compatible with each other, and not Shimano.
Keep the crankset from getting dinged up, as it's painted. 52/42 turns some folks off.

The 89 Ironman Expert had the complete group, to include hubs, freewheel, FD, RD, crankset, shifters, aero levers, headset, and BB.
That, I think, may well bring $300, but perhaps only to a few.

Still, it's great stuff. Light calipers with no springs showing. Dark anodized matches well with most paint schemes.

Having had both Sante and GPX, I'd vote for the Sante, too, especially if white was involved on the frame.
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Old 02-01-11, 02:41 PM   #5
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Why is sante so desirable? Is it just because it's white? What group is it comparable to mechanically?
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Why is sante so desirable? Is it just because it's white? What group is it comparable to mechanically?
Yeah, it is desirable because it is white and it was only produced for 2 years. It was position above the 600 under Dura Ace. They look great until you get some road rash on them.
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Yeah, it is desirable because it is white and it was only produced for 2 years. It was position above the 600 under Dura Ace. They look great until you get some road rash on them.
Ah, I didn't know it was so high up in the lineup. For some reason I thought it was just white 105 or something.
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It's pretty smooth stuff, that Sante, and if you lay out a set of 600 tricolor, Sante, and DA next to each other, the differences are subtle, but there.

The Sante headset is very pretty, but the white covers over the races are fragile.
Sante hubs are not white, they are polished. There is also a Sante cassette and bb.
The white and silver them carries not just into the crankset and FD/RD, but half of
the caliper is silver, the other half is white.

Ended up with a collector who drove from Savannah GA to buy it.
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Why is sante so desirable? Is it just because it's white? What group is it comparable to mechanically?
Relatively rare. Placed between 600 and Dura Ace. The finish easily scratches, so finding clean Sante crankarms and derailleurs makes for good money. I like the look of the headset covers and the QR levers. PRetty nice looking stuff.

As far as your original group, +! I don't see it bringing $200 to $300, and even if it could, I would keep it. A Bridgestone RB-1 is fairly collectible now, and will become much more collectible. Having the original group will make a huge difference in value in the future, IMHO. Once the original parts are gone, they are gone.
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word, I have been schooled. i'll hold onto the GPX for now.

you guys pretty much nailed it why i wanted Sante (rarity, bling) but I was impressed by the performance once i rode it. i love that whole era and have built a bunch of bikes with DA-7400 and 6400 Tri-color. i run the Sante friction and it's a dream. favorite bike status by far.

also i think it's hilarious that there were also at least two other knockoffs of Sante: Suntour Ole and Miche Leader...
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Well, if sante is anything like 6400 or 7400 I can definitely see why people want it. Nice RB-1 by the way, I still intend to own one!
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the GPX is not that easy to find and a superb group. I run a GPX drivetrain, all GPX hubs and Command shifters (tried GPX shifters as well) and it works beautifully.
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GPX is on par with Shimano 600 tri-color. it's reliable and shifts well, but is a little bit fiddlier with the RD adjustments in order to keep shifting smooth over time.
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