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Old 02-01-11, 05:05 PM   #1
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Snow!!!

EDIT Despite my long post, I want to see your snow bikes as well


Not wanting to subject my existing rides to the elements, I hadn't been riding much with all the snow lately. On Friday I finally threw up a craigslist WTB ad for a cheap frame for 27" wheels, as I had a set lying around. Somehow I ended up with this:



25" 1986 Scwhinn Traveler in cadet blue plus it's original crank, after 8 miles of thinly plow packed back roads.

I've had to deal with a couple of quirks; the rear end may have been re-spaced to 120mm, so it takes a levers to get the wheel in, the seat post binder was gone so a nut/bolt/washers fill that role and the rear drop out is half permanently filled.

Luckily the 3rd (of 6) smallest cog, a 17, is about inline and works with the room I have, although 42x17 is a smidge taller than I'd like for slumming around. Half links have made the shopping list.

It also turned out the rear wheel has a flat spot in it (bent inward), but it'll do for now.

The entire frame is coated in boiled linseed oil, inside and out. I used a piece of old brake housing to snake a soaked rag up the down tube and back through the chain stays. I squeezed some into the vent holes. I haven't taken the fork off yet, though

That stuff isn't nearly as bad as I've read it made out to be. It was dry by the next day.

The jury is still out on whether I prefer skinny tires to 2" MTB knobbies. My hands were rather clenched most of the ride, but I didn't take any spills.

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Old 02-01-11, 05:14 PM   #2
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Define "cheap" -- looks like a nice bike from here.

Do you apply the linseed oil to the exterior of the frame with a soaked rag as well? Is this to repel moisture, I assume? And why do you boil the oil first?
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If you're going to do that tugrul, on that bike, you have a reason to spend money on 700c rims and studded tires.

(- It's cheaper than a hip replacement!)
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Do you apply the linseed oil to the exterior of the frame with a soaked rag as well? Is this to repel moisture, I assume? And why do you boil the oil first?
It comes "boiled", as explained here (in short to hasten drying).



I believe it works by sealing any bare metal from oxygen.
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Old 02-01-11, 05:31 PM   #5
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If you're going to do that tugrul, on that bike, you have a reason to spend money on 700c rims and studded tires.
Yes, that would be the prudent thing to do. It's a good excuse to go buy the Quando/M13II cartridge bearing wheel set from Harris.
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(Sorry, I have posted this picture a number of times before)

Old GT Outpost set up with fixed gear, fenders, studded tires, and dirt drops (modern knockoffs of them anyway).

Its a blast and I manage to put a lot of miles on it over the last two Winters.

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p.s., its original orange splatter paint will make it easier for survivors to find my body.
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My GT Force 6061 frame, with an al Sakae Litage fork. I run friction barcons in winter time, and throw some more disposable type components on it, when the snow clears it gets rebuilt with sti, mainly just 105 kinda stuff, its just a commuter, I ride it every day, I just kinda run 23c tires (all that will fit), my front has those lil liney treads for traction though haha. I more or less stick to main traveled roads so im riding on pavement mostly as the heavy traffic just melts all the snow and ice, but I can get over some more treacherous surfaces without fault too.
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I picked up a Soma Double Cross frame from CL and built this bike around a pair of 700c Nokian 106 studded tires. It is 10speed (11-34) w/ a 42th and a 28th crankset. Dyno hub, lights, disc brake etc.

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My winter 'beater'. This bike was a blast to build up and is even more fun to ride. My plan right now is to replace the Sora 9s with a Campagnolo 10s Veloce (cheeeeap at ribble) but keep the Shimano drivetrain. Maybe add a compact crank at that time too. Also it has fenders too but only when it needs them because I think they're fugly. Oh and I can post it here because the saddle is C&V ; )


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As for tires, I'd say depending on how serious you are and your budget, make your own studded tires. I used some old MTB knobbies, a drill with a bit just Barely smaller than a smoke nipple width, and some spoke nipples. They work great!

Later I'll post a picture of my 94 Giant Yukon set up for winter duty.
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My winter rig w/ Schwalbe Marathon Winter studded tires:



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I have unfortunatly had to commute in my share of rain, snow and sleet but I never ran out and bought a special bike for it. never used fenders either.
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I have unfortunatly had to commute in my share of rain, snow and sleet but I never ran out and bought a special bike for it. never used fenders either.
If Bianchi made a "Snow Bianchi" with studded tires & fenders, you would own two. One for riding and one for show.
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Last year I rode a ~65 g.i. fixed gear with 32c vittoria rando's with fenders. It made riding in crappy weather tolerable, and fresh snowpack was a blast.

(actually different wheels are pictured)
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oh and tandems at 2am work too
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Ha! I knew it. I saw that post and thought "I bet that's Tugrul." Now that I see the result I need to start posting WTB ads on craigslist too!

Here's me making a grocery run this evening on my Jamis Coda. It needs fenders and the Kenda Kourier 700-35s were pretty squirelly on the packed powder on the shoulder... but the insane grade going up to my house was as always my biggest obstacle. I even got an encouraging beep-beep from someone as they passed me.
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Old 02-01-11, 09:32 PM   #17
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Ha! I knew it. I saw that post and thought "I bet that's Tugrul." Now that I see the result I need to start posting WTB ads on craigslist too!


I totally didn't expect anything remotely this nice. To answer DavidW56's question, I had put out an offer of $20 for frame/fork/headset/seat post, ended up getting the frame/fork/headset/BB and took the crank for another $10. I don't know why the guy was letting it go for so low, as he admitted he wouldn't be selling it if it fit him.

The 26.6mm post is from my 23" 1988 Schwinn Tempo, which is getting a much long Kalloy post. It's at its minimum insertion point, even on the 25" frame...

Which brings me to the other thing I learned from this bike, I can do 25" frames no problem. When I briefly had the 25" 1984 Fuji Espree a year ago, it seemed a lot bigger than this frame does to me now. I had the seat post lower, I remember dismounting requiring a bit of attention... but I was rather green then (as if I'm not now) and after spending time on 24" frames, this was great.

Now I just need to find one of those mid to late 80s high end tall bikes with short top tubes (Schwinn Prologue 63.5x58, Bridgestone RB-1 63x58, Team Miyata 63x57, etc).
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So is 60X58 too small for you then? I'm working on a '88 Trek 1500 right now for a co-worker and I'm a little concerned that it's too big for him... it was given to him and I haven't seen him on it yet. You wouldn't happen to have something similar in a 58cm?
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I totally didn't expect anything remotely this nice. To answer DavidW56's question, I had put out an offer of $20 for frame/fork/headset/seat post, ended up getting the frame/fork/headset/BB and took the crank for another $10. I don't know why the guy was letting it go for so low, as he admitted he wouldn't be selling it if it fit him.

The 26.6mm post is from my 23" 1988 Schwinn Tempo, which is getting a much long Kalloy post. It's at its minimum insertion point, even on the 25" frame...

Which brings me to the other thing I learned from this bike, I can do 25" frames no problem. When I briefly had the 25" 1984 Fuji Espree a year ago, it seemed a lot bigger than this frame does to me now. I had the seat post lower, I remember dismounting requiring a bit of attention... but I was rather green then (as if I'm not now) and after spending time on 24" frames, this was great.

Now I just need to find one of those mid to late 80s high end tall bikes with short top tubes (Schwinn Prologue 63.5x58, Bridgestone RB-1 63x58, Team Miyata 63x57, etc).
Add Univega Gran Touring to that list. I had one that size last year and sold it (because the top tube just about came up to my forehead). It had slight front end crash damage though but the buyer said it still road straight as an arrow. I was unable to test ride it for the above mentioned reason....
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Here's mine...'95 Iron Horse MTB with fenders and drops...running the original grip shifters on bar end adaptors.

Needs better tires though...
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look at the brooks on the winter weather bikes!?
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So is 60X58 too small for you then? I'm working on a '88 Trek 1500 right now for a co-worker and I'm a little concerned that it's too big for him... it was given to him and I haven't seen him on it yet. You wouldn't happen to have something similar in a 58cm?
Not that I'm willing with part with at the moment. Closest thing I have is a 23" 1988 Schwinn Tempo, a spiritual replacement for my first road bike all of a year and a half ago, a 23" 1989 Schwinn Traveler. At least at my weight back then (+30lbs at least), my fingers would go numb on that bike before I put fat brifters on, but damn it was fun to ride. I'm on a probably misguided effort to recreate that magic.
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In my case, it's just a lowly regular 'ol B17...???

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look at the brooks on the winter weather bikes!?
My slummy commuter / winter bike has a wrights saddle on it. Slummin it.

My "new" winter bike. I have to admit, I am a little disappointed with the mtb performance in bad conditions. I assume studded tires would help but I haven't taken the plunge or the DIY route. The bike is a Schwinn Sierra.



This Lotus got me through every day of last winter... and it was a pretty bad one. The 32mm tires seem to work better when there is fresh, heavy snow fall.

This photo was taken after my Lotus got a spring cleanup:
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