72? Italian? Campy / Zeus?
02-01-11, 06:28 PM
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72? Italian? Campy / Zeus?
A friend of mine just acquired this:
headset is stronglight, crank is campy, chainring is sugino, rear der. is zeus , BB is phil wood!
headset is stronglight, crank is campy, chainring is sugino, rear der. is zeus , BB is phil wood!
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02-01-11, 06:35 PM
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what size is the seat post? 27.2?
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02-01-11, 06:36 PM
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Check the BB width. I'm guessing it's American or British, with the shot-in stays. It looks like a very nicely made frame - the degree of lug thinning makes me think American. Very nice.
02-01-11, 07:08 PM
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How is the cable routed on the TT?
And with the single WB bosses and braze-on shifters, I'd think later than '72...but how about a shot of the dropouts?
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02-01-11, 07:12 PM
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I agree. I looked at the worked lugs and immediately thought American hands had been on this. I like it.
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02-01-11, 07:14 PM
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I asked him about seatpost size...awaiting reply. Any other pic requests? I would like to know and see the dropouts.
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02-01-11, 07:34 PM
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Is there a dent in the downtube? seems like a big one, or maybe some improvised artwork.
02-01-11, 07:52 PM
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not sure...he did say it had a "random sticker" on it.
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02-01-11, 08:26 PM
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The first thing that struck me was how SHORT the wheelbase appears: like maybe 38"? And yeah, the finish work has a definite "USA" look to it. Bet that puppy's some kinda rocket ship when ya stomp on the pedals!
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02-02-11, 09:34 AM
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Not Zeus; as someone said, looks American to me.
02-02-11, 09:39 AM
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Sorry, I meant it had campy and zeus parts on it.
I should get some more info on it later today.
I should get some more info on it later today.
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02-02-11, 06:18 PM
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more pics, also seatpost is 27.2, not sure about BB shell width yet.
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02-02-11, 06:21 PM
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more
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02-02-11, 06:28 PM
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It's "Mercianesque," except I wouldn't expect that degree of lug thinning on a Mercian.
02-02-11, 06:32 PM
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what's up w/ the front fork crown, seamless w/ the fork blades?
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02-02-11, 06:37 PM
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This is the first time you've seen a Cinelli-style crown?
02-02-11, 06:39 PM
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Mercian with fastback stays, Cinelli crown, long-point lugs:
https://cgi.ebay.com/MERCIAN-ROAD-BIK...item4cf4abb984
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02-02-11, 06:40 PM
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no, but most I've seen have lug like definition at the blade inserts.
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02-02-11, 06:48 PM
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The aggressive front points on the lugs remind me a bit of Hetchins keyholes, but it's not one of those - though you can see some similarity:
https://www.hetchins.org/501keyhole-01.htm
02-02-11, 07:04 PM
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And an MKM with those same forward-pointed lugs:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...km_T-Adams.htm
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...km_T-Adams.htm
02-02-11, 07:39 PM
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02-02-11, 08:04 PM
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And an MKM with those same forward-pointed lugs:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...km_T-Adams.htm
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...km_T-Adams.htm
and, I still want to see how the cable on the TT is treated: internal or what style of cable eye?
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