Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 27
  1. #1
    car dodger norskagent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    garner/raleigh nc
    Posts
    3,287
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    72? Italian? Campy / Zeus?

    A friend of mine just acquired this:










    headset is stronglight, crank is campy, chainring is sugino, rear der. is zeus , BB is phil wood!
    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
    1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
    1983 Bianchi pista
    1976 Fuji Feather track
    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

  2. #2
    no one cares -holiday76's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NYCadelphOrnia
    Posts
    5,457
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    what size is the seat post? 27.2?
    Mmmm, bicycles.

    I prefer emails to private messages - holiday76@gmail.com

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lancaster County, PA
    My Bikes
    '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
    Posts
    5,063
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Check the BB width. I'm guessing it's American or British, with the shot-in stays. It looks like a very nicely made frame - the degree of lug thinning makes me think American. Very nice.

  4. #4
    Senior Member tugrul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Portsmouth, NH
    Posts
    2,437
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've got nothing to contribute but that is a beautiful frame.

  5. #5
    Stop reading my posts! unworthy1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    8,370
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Picchio Special View Post
    Check the BB width. I'm guessing it's American or British, with the shot-in stays. It looks like a very nicely made frame - the degree of lug thinning makes me think American. Very nice.
    ^gotta agree with that assessment: the shot-in stays plus lug thinning look like USA Handbuilt to me...and nicely done.
    How is the cable routed on the TT?
    And with the single WB bosses and braze-on shifters, I'd think later than '72...but how about a shot of the dropouts?
    Last edited by unworthy1; 02-01-11 at 07:14 PM.

  6. #6
    Senior Member afilado's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Chattanooga
    My Bikes
    '93 Bridgestone RB-1, '91 Specialized Allez Epic, '85 Raleigh Team Pro, '78 Andre Bertin, early '90s F. Moser Leader AX , '85 Centurion Equipe, '98 Litespeed Tuscany, '89 Klein Quantum, '80 Nishiki Superbe, '83 Peckham, '84 Fuji Opus III
    Posts
    1,172
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I agree. I looked at the worked lugs and immediately thought American hands had been on this. I like it.

    J

    Quote Originally Posted by Picchio Special View Post
    Check the BB width. I'm guessing it's American or British, with the shot-in stays. It looks like a very nicely made frame - the degree of lug thinning makes me think American. Very nice.

  7. #7
    car dodger norskagent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    garner/raleigh nc
    Posts
    3,287
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I asked him about seatpost size...awaiting reply. Any other pic requests? I would like to know and see the dropouts.
    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
    1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
    1983 Bianchi pista
    1976 Fuji Feather track
    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

  8. #8
    Senior Member MPC Biker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Toronto
    My Bikes
    1986 Miele Elite S, SunTour Sprint
    Posts
    197
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Is there a dent in the downtube? seems like a big one, or maybe some improvised artwork.
    1986 Miele Elite S, full SunTour Sprint Groupo.
    1984? Binachi Ibex, currently living as a three speed (triple front, single rear)
    ----- My stealth black fixie, (doesn't stand out in the racks downtown)

  9. #9
    car dodger norskagent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    garner/raleigh nc
    Posts
    3,287
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    not sure...he did say it had a "random sticker" on it.
    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
    1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
    1983 Bianchi pista
    1976 Fuji Feather track
    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

  10. #10
    Senior Member bobbycorno's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    2,545
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The first thing that struck me was how SHORT the wheelbase appears: like maybe 38"? And yeah, the finish work has a definite "USA" look to it. Bet that puppy's some kinda rocket ship when ya stomp on the pedals!

    SP
    Bend, OR

  11. #11
    Large Member realestvin7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Tejas
    Posts
    2,733
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sweet score!

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    My Bikes
    Cinelli, Paramount, Raleigh, Carlton, Zeus, Gemniani, Frejus, Legnano, Pinarello, Falcon
    Posts
    5,775
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Not Zeus; as someone said, looks American to me.

  13. #13
    car dodger norskagent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    garner/raleigh nc
    Posts
    3,287
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sorry, I meant it had campy and zeus parts on it.
    I should get some more info on it later today.
    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
    1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
    1983 Bianchi pista
    1976 Fuji Feather track
    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

  14. #14
    car dodger norskagent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    garner/raleigh nc
    Posts
    3,287
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    more pics, also seatpost is 27.2, not sure about BB shell width yet.








    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
    1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
    1983 Bianchi pista
    1976 Fuji Feather track
    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

  15. #15
    car dodger norskagent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    garner/raleigh nc
    Posts
    3,287
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    more




    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
    1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
    1983 Bianchi pista
    1976 Fuji Feather track
    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lancaster County, PA
    My Bikes
    '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
    Posts
    5,063
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's "Mercianesque," except I wouldn't expect that degree of lug thinning on a Mercian.

  17. #17
    car dodger norskagent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    garner/raleigh nc
    Posts
    3,287
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    what's up w/ the front fork crown, seamless w/ the fork blades?
    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
    1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
    1983 Bianchi pista
    1976 Fuji Feather track
    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lancaster County, PA
    My Bikes
    '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
    Posts
    5,063
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    This is the first time you've seen a Cinelli-style crown?

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lancaster County, PA
    My Bikes
    '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
    Posts
    5,063
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Mercian with fastback stays, Cinelli crown, long-point lugs:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/MERCIAN-ROAD-BIK...item4cf4abb984

  20. #20
    car dodger norskagent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    garner/raleigh nc
    Posts
    3,287
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    no, but most I've seen have lug like definition at the blade inserts.
    1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
    1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
    1983 Bianchi pista
    1976 Fuji Feather track
    1979 raleigh track
    "I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"

  21. #21
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lancaster County, PA
    My Bikes
    '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
    Posts
    5,063
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by norskagent View Post
    no, but most I've seen have lug like definition at the blade inserts.
    But many do not, like the Mercian I linked to.

    The aggressive front points on the lugs remind me a bit of Hetchins keyholes, but it's not one of those - though you can see some similarity:

    http://www.hetchins.org/501keyhole-01.htm

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    1,140
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    im not seeing any of the pics?

  23. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lancaster County, PA
    My Bikes
    '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
    Posts
    5,063
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    And an MKM with those same forward-pointed lugs:

    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...km_T-Adams.htm

  24. #24
    Old fart JohnDThompson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Appleton WI
    My Bikes
    Several, mostly not name brands.
    Posts
    12,997
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by norskagent View Post
    what's up w/ the front fork crown, seamless w/ the fork blades?
    Internally lugged crown, Cinelli, Zeus, Davis, Takahashi, and others made these:





  25. #25
    Stop reading my posts! unworthy1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    8,370
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Picchio Special View Post
    And an MKM with those same forward-pointed lugs:

    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...km_T-Adams.htm
    the lugs are Prugnat Pros, long point with windows...very popular with many British builders, but the fastbackish stay treatment is not like either the Mercian (Victor style) or the MKM. I would not 100% rule out a British builder, but the steerer has a hint of Columbus rifling (can you verify) which would tend to push it back to the USA, for me.
    and, I still want to see how the cable on the TT is treated: internal or what style of cable eye?
    Last edited by unworthy1; 02-02-11 at 08:07 PM.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •