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Old 03-03-11, 02:58 PM   #1
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Mansfield Leather Saddles

Has anyone ever ridden one of these? They're interesting. They look super long, and rather uncomfortable due to that. Thing one claims to be from the 50's.



I've seen them a few times. This one is for sale on the bay for $100.

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I'm guessing TT means they're for time trialing, so comfort isnt an issue. Still, interested to know if anyone has any experience with them.
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I wonder how the seller knows it was popular? did they really TT in the '50s?

Nos 1950's Mansfeild No 42 Eclipse Saddle.
Popular TT saddle in it's day.

Saddle in nos condition, but does have slight surface rust on rivets and rails.

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looks like a cucumber with rivets.
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I wonder how the seller knows it was popular? did they really TT in the '50s?

Nos 1950's Mansfeild No 42 Eclipse Saddle.
Popular TT saddle in it's day.

Saddle in nos condition, but does have slight surface rust on rivets and rails.









Hi BG, it's probably different depending on the Country. Time Trialling was the main form of cycle racing in Britain from the 1930's through to the 1970's due to draconian traffic laws in place to discourage any form of racing or competition on the public highway. For much of that time the routes and times of competitions were kept very low-key, even secret with routes being known by code numbers i.e. "C21" and taking place early in the morning or late evening. This is likely to have migrated to New Zealand along with many other British institutions.

I'd have thought that the Wrights, Lycett and Brooks Swallow saddles were more popular (or common) in the 1950's, judging by the number still in use in Britain on Clubmens bikes in the 1960's, but Mansfields might have been more prevalent 'Down Under'?

I'm looking for something similar to this to replace the split Brooks on my 1953 Claud Butler, which is an original 'Clubmens' bike, set up with double sided fixed hub for time trialling. Hoping to find one a bit cheaper though.
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I don't know anything about the Mansfield brand of saddles, but that narrow saddle style is primarily intended for track use. In the Brooks range, that style of very narrow saddle was known as the B17 Sprinter.

Included are two snips from the 1935 and 1957 Brooks catalogues. I don't know when production of the style ceased, but I do remember seeing them in use in the mid-1960s.
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Has anyone ever ridden one of these? They're interesting. They look super long, and rather uncomfortable due to that. Thing one claims to be from the 50's.



I've seen them a few times. This one is for sale on the bay for $100.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-MANSFIELD-EC...item43a599a1b3
I used a Mansfield saddle on my Cinelli (Model B/Riviera) in 1965. That summer, I rode on it around England and Ireland and from the Netherlands to Milan (over the Alps through Switzerland) and it was fine for that. I bought a new Cinelli Super Corsa frame from Cinelli and had the old frame repainted and shipped home (along with the Mansfield saddle).
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They were certainly time-trialling in California by the mid-1950s - people I knew were training for the 1956, 1960, and 1964 Olympics, but I only got involved in cycling myself in 1959. As another poster mentioned, time trialling had been the only type of road racing allowed in the UK for many years, due to motorists complaining about large packs in road races blocking roads.
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They were certainly time-trialling in California by the mid-1950s - people I knew were training for the 1956, 1960, and 1964 Olympics, but I only got involved in cycling myself in 1959. As another poster mentioned, time trialling had been the only type of road racing allowed in the UK for many years, due to motorists complaining about large packs in road races blocking roads.
Some things never change, eh? Thanks for the historical viewpoint peterbe!
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I've got one of these Mansfield TT saddles in good condition (some rust on the rivets). My dad rode it in the 1940's in England. I never had any desire to put it on any bike and ride it. I rode a Brooks B17 Sprint and gave up... and it was wider! Anyone interested in pix?
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I wonder how the seller knows it was popular? did they really TT in the '50s?

Nos 1950's Mansfeild No 42 Eclipse Saddle.
Popular TT saddle in it's day.

Saddle in nos condition, but does have slight surface rust on rivets and rails.

In England aside from Track (Path) racing it was all TT I believe
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By request... For the benefit of those familiar with Brooks I have included a photo of a Mansfield TT saddle next to a Brooks B17 "Champion Narrow" (the widest one ) and a Brooks B17 "Champion Sprint." All three of these came off of bicycles that my father rode pre-WWII in England. I still have those bikes and they still get ridden occasionally.

When I asked my dad about "comfort" his response was that if you were sitting on the saddle you probably lost the sprint.

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I bought a 50s Brooks B17 Sprinter a few months back, it was ok for a very narrow saddle, I did a 30 mile ride on it (a saddle designed for 1 mile sprint races) and could certainly feel it by the end but no soft tissue agony, when I finished riding I was ok. I only used it for 2 weeks because it became badly in need of tensioning and no spanner I have will fit it.
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