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Old 03-08-11, 09:07 PM
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Please help me identify my new bike! Wooden rims, Nov 3 1888 build
















Found in a barn a year ago

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Cool ! What do you suppose is that bracket hanging off down tube?
Can't quite see the saddle in pic...wonder what that round bracket is also
hanging off front of it?
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Originally Posted by bike_boy
Cool ! What do you suppose is that bracket hanging off down tube?
Can't quite see the saddle in pic...wonder what that round bracket is also
hanging off front of it?

I can only imagine it held a water bottle cage or water bottle somehow? There's an ancient dried up piece of leather as a shim between the frame and bracket
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Cool ! What do you suppose is that bracket hanging off down tube?
......
That's so you can hitch your horse to it when that new-fangled contraption breaks down.
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Just re-read the date. It says 'PATD Nov 23 1888'

So not sure when it's from. When was coaster brake invented?
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those pedals (that single pedal) are awesome (is awesome)!
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Wooden rims are going to clean up nicely. All pinstriping is still there and red is nice and bold
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Originally Posted by bike_boy
Cool ! What do you suppose is that bracket hanging off down tube?
Can't quite see the saddle in pic...wonder what that round bracket is also
hanging off front of it?
That's no bracket in front of the seat - it's part of the seat. A giant spring
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A few more pictures. Any ideas?






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I would say it's as the seat and brake says, A Gentruy.I don't think there were a lot of suppliers back then so it's probably all in house and company stamps. Looks cool. Kinda like a old Harly.
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Thanks! Seat says 'Century'
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That's pretty amazing. I'd jump at the chance to ride something that old, just to see what it feels like.
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Added a few more pictures
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Jason,

Can't help you with the ID, but my guess is the wheels are not as old as 1888. Here's why: The first practical pneumatic tire was not invented until 1888.

In 1887, John Dunlop developed the first practical pneumatic tire for his son's tricycle, tested it, and patented it on December 7, 1888. Dunlop’s development of the pneumatic tire arrived at a crucial time in the development of road transportation. Commercial production began in late 1890 in Belfast, Ireland. Dunlop partnered with William Du Cros to form a company that would later become the Dunlop Rubber Company.
https://www.ideafinder.com/history/in...umatictire.htm

Coaster brakes were invented by New Departure in 1898.

https://history.gmheritagecenter.com/...turing_Company

Hope this is helpful. My guess would be the bike is from 1900-1910. Any printing on the rims? Have you pulled the crankset?
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^^^^^ yes sir!

There were many, many bicycle manufacturers in 1900. Here is a list of 3100 brands.
https://www.thewheelmen.org/sections/...yclebrands.asp

Pedals seen to be the most expensive parts of the antiques. Be careful taking it apart. They aren't worth a lot but they are getting quite rare.

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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Jason,

Can't help you with the ID, but my guess is the wheels are not as old as 1888. Here's why: The first practical pneumatic tire was not invented until 1888.



https://www.ideafinder.com/history/in...umatictire.htm

Coaster brakes were invented by New Departure in 1898.

https://history.gmheritagecenter.com/...turing_Company

Hope this is helpful. My guess would be the bike is from 1900-1910. Any printing on the rims? Have you pulled the crankset?
Thanks Bob! (and hello!)

Interesting - I was trying to figure out what the coaster brake said on it, and that's what it is - New Departure
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As a sidenote and more just out of curiosity, is there any sort of value to
bikes like this?
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Is that a patent ID # on the sidewall of the tire?
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Originally Posted by alanknm
Is that a patent ID # on the sidewall of the tire?
yeah it's a date - in the year 1913. No idea if it is the original tire, but the BFGoodrich Safety Tread Bicycle Tire makes me think it's no later than the 20's

I'm still learning about this vintage - this is older than I'm used to looking at.

Here's the exact hub I have - I'm guessing this seller's price is a little out of line? And if the seller is on here by chance - just kidding

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tchlink:top:en

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Flip the bars, get rid of that sissy coaster brake- it'll make an awesome fixie!!
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
Flip the bars, get rid of that sissy coaster brake- it'll make an awesome fixie!!
Please, this thread is a "NO FIXIE ZONE!"

Heavens, we're not talking about preserving a Schwinn Racer or a Huffy single speed!
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So is an oxalic acid bath the best bet to reclaim any remnant of chrome on the crank, hub(s), etc?

And lexol on the seat?
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Please, this thread is a "NO FIXIE ZONE!"

Heavens, we're not talking about preserving a Schwinn Racer or a Huffy single speed!
Brifters and a carbon fork?
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
Brifters and a carbon fork?
It's carbon already. In a kind of 'returning to the Earth' way
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It's carbon already. In a kind of 'returning to the Earth' way
Ha!!
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