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Old 04-12-11, 09:26 AM   #1
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Scored a Spectrum...

Yesterday I picked up an '85 Spectrum sport tourer frameset locally.

I think I got a decent deal, and the workmanship is top notch regardless. Frame is a mix of SL and SP according to Jeff @ Spectrum. The frame has been repainted, and kinda needs it again. It has internal cable routing on all cables and an internal path for lighting or computer wiring on the fork I guess.

Now I need to decide what to build it up with:

1) Centaur Century gruppo
2) Centaur with some CF bits (alloy cranks though)
3) Complete DT shifter Chorus gruppo from the unloved Greg Lemond

Thoughts???

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Old 04-12-11, 09:32 AM   #2
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Wow.

Does the internal housing need to be refreshed for Ergo's? How?
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Do you mean for cable size? Cable sizes would be smaller today...

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Does the internal housing need to be refreshed for Ergo's? How?
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Nice Find Mark!
I think the Century group would go well with the current Paint color. Kind of a gray scale build.

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That bike is so awesome and such a catch! TK, for my money, is right with Sachs as the country's best. My Merlin, designed by TK, was the best riding bike I'd ever ridden until the Marnati.
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Spoke to Jeff again today...bike was originally jade green and taupe.

He said Tom can supply decals...so...I may repaint it locally.

I would love to have TK repaint it, but we're talking $500-700.
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Do you mean for cable size? Cable sizes would be smaller today...
Friction in general. I didn't think the old housing was up to modern spec.
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I'm sorry...but...I must be dense today...brand-new, current campy housing and cables will fit the installed stainless tubing.

As far as friction issues with modern 10s or 11s on internal routed frames in general...that I dunno!

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I agree...if I stay charcoal/silver the Century gruppo would look awesome.

What are your thoughts on the frame colors???

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Nice Find Mark!
I think the Century group would go well with the current Paint color. Kind of a gray scale build.

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I vote century group. though a frame like that looks good in anything.
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I'm sorry...but...I must be dense today...brand-new, current campy housing and cables will fit the installed stainless tubing.
I can't comment on your density, but I had no idea that was permanent stainless routing. I've never seen such elaborate routing on anything other than on crazy aero bikes.
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The internal cable tube looks to be a metal tube, not a flexible cable housing. The metal tube should be at least as stiff as index cable housing (if not stiffer), I dont forsee that it will cause compression problems effecting index shifting performance. Just make sure the ID of the tube is clean and lubed for low-friction so the rear derailler can pull cable back when shifting to high gear.
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Nice score. IMO, those Spectrums have the best looking, sexiest seat cluster in the business:
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I really like the internal cable routing. I've been "hanging" around @ Spectrum for close to a year and haven't seen anything like that on their new frames. Very cool frame!
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Spoke to Jeff again today...bike was originally jade green and taupe.

He said Tom can supply decals...so...I may repaint it locally.

I would love to have TK repaint it, but we're talking $500-700.
I would ship it back to Tom and Jeff! I LOVE their work and Tom can really paint!
Then I would find a 10 speed alloy chorus group and put that on it!

But then I wouldn't want to ride it!

If you are going to keep the bike, I would not let anyone paint it but TK!
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After seeing Tom's paint jobs up close, they look like they are still wet after drying. They are amazing!
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Man, I'm just lovin' the stuff you guys found this past weekend. There's three real beauties up here now... great find once again!
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I'm gonna keep it for sure...but...the paint job would triple the cost of the frame! I can paint it locally for <$200 (doing the prep work myself). Unfortunately, Jeff said they no longer have the professional champions seat tube decals.

I also considering respraying the headtube, toptube, and the rear triangle and touching up other spots by hand...unfortunately there is a huge paint scar/crater right on the top edge of the DT spectrum 'S'!

I'll have to ponder it for a couple days...

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I would ship it back to Tom and Jeff! I LOVE their work and Tom can really paint!
Then I would find a 10 speed alloy chorus group and put that on it!

But then I wouldn't want to ride it!

If you are going to keep the bike, I would not let anyone paint it but TK!
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Yeah...checkout the detail photo of the inside of the BB shell...between the mitering and the cable tubing it is pretty cool.

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I can't comment on your density, but I had no idea that was permanent stainless routing. I've never seen such elaborate routing on anything other than on crazy aero bikes.
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I need to use one of the gruppos I have here...too much stuff kicking around...besides, I see no need for Chorus over Centaur really (although I am putting 2010 Chorus 11 on my incoming Meech)!

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I would ship it back to Tom and Jeff! I LOVE their work and Tom can really paint!
Then I would find a 10 speed alloy chorus group and put that on it!

But then I wouldn't want to ride it!

If you are going to keep the bike, I would not let anyone paint it but TK!
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Thanx...

FWIW, my source for this frame was the same one I got the De Rosa Pro and the Andy Gilmour Team from.

If anyone is interested, I also have access to a 59cm Guerciotti red/chrome fork and a Keith Anderson 50-52cmish in yellow. I can get more details, pics, and pricing if need be.

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It's very nice, even though it apparently doesn't have the ultra-coolio neo-Bostonian dropout junctions.
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Do you have a pic Picchio???

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What a pretty frameset.

Lovin' the seat cluster as well. Somewhat reminiscent of my Kvale.

With a mix of SL and SP, it should give a nice ride as well.

I'd vote for no repaint, Honjos or Berthouds if they fit, and Centaur if you have it.

In fact, the color scheme reminds me a little of that super sweet silver Chris Bishop at NAHBS.

Remember this one Mark?

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