Vintage Celeste Bianchi Time Trial - NEED HELP
04-25-11, 09:13 AM
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Vintage Celeste Bianchi Time Trial - NEED HELP
im thinking of buying a celeste bianchi time trial frame with an Ambrosio rear disc wheel that is also celeste.
the Ambrosio rear wheel has no cassette.
no crank no nothing just frame, rear wheel and 650cc front wheel.
The shop is selling it for 500$ is it worth it?
im thinking of putting some time and effort in restoring this bike, is it worth the effort and $$?
ALSO can any 7 speed cassette fit on that back Ambrosio wheel??
i found a picture of the complete bike on flikr and it has shimano 105.
here are some pics.
The bike i am getting has the same colour frame and rear wheel but is not comoplete.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpro...n/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpro...n/photostream/
the Ambrosio rear wheel has no cassette.
no crank no nothing just frame, rear wheel and 650cc front wheel.
The shop is selling it for 500$ is it worth it?
im thinking of putting some time and effort in restoring this bike, is it worth the effort and $$?
ALSO can any 7 speed cassette fit on that back Ambrosio wheel??
i found a picture of the complete bike on flikr and it has shimano 105.
here are some pics.
The bike i am getting has the same colour frame and rear wheel but is not comoplete.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpro...n/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpro...n/photostream/
04-25-11, 08:44 PM
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How did I miss this thread? this is what happens when I leave the computer.
Fast and Curious just what do you mean but "restore" it? the bike is fully stock as it hangs there. it is only a 105 bike but I think if that was a 59 and near me I would snatch it up. if you don't want this one.........Just what size it it? I would not recomending riding that rear wheel on the road.
Fast and Curious just what do you mean but "restore" it? the bike is fully stock as it hangs there. it is only a 105 bike but I think if that was a 59 and near me I would snatch it up. if you don't want this one.........Just what size it it? I would not recomending riding that rear wheel on the road.
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04-25-11, 08:59 PM
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That bike is amazing! What is the exact model of this bike? I would like to check around for one of them.
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it is a 1989 Kronos, Formula II tubing, the bike in the link does look completely stock. these were niche bikes and I don't recall ever seeing one in person. the retail, now this is with 105 was $1300. the same year you could get an Ishwata framed Limited w/ Ultegra for 900 or a SLX Giro with Athena for 1150
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Buy it and flip the frame to some hipster for a grand.
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It would be hanging in The Old Shed already. I would buy that in a heart beat!
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Hi Bianchigirll
The picture tht I posted is one that I found on flikr, and I mentioned tht it is the complete bike.
The bike tht I want to buy is exactly the same one with the same rear wheel and front wheel but with no crank, handlebars, seat/seatpost, no freewheel for the Ambrosio wheel and basicly no components.
Just frame rear wheel and front wheel. Nothing else. 500$ Is tht a reasonable price??
That picture is what I want it to look like when I'm done with it.
I was going to hunt for shimano 105 7 speed. Or Shimano 600.
And eventualy all the other parts.
The picture tht I posted is one that I found on flikr, and I mentioned tht it is the complete bike.
The bike tht I want to buy is exactly the same one with the same rear wheel and front wheel but with no crank, handlebars, seat/seatpost, no freewheel for the Ambrosio wheel and basicly no components.
Just frame rear wheel and front wheel. Nothing else. 500$ Is tht a reasonable price??
That picture is what I want it to look like when I'm done with it.
I was going to hunt for shimano 105 7 speed. Or Shimano 600.
And eventualy all the other parts.
04-26-11, 04:40 PM
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As I think you have discovered, the disk in not likely a casette hub but takes a freewheel. Most any 7-speed freewheel would indeed work for friction shifting but you will need a index compatable FW if you want it to click shift.
Small wheel TT bikes are somewhat of a competitive dead end. They are not legal for use in USCF sanctioned time trials. The position of the bikes was developed prior to scott type aero tri-bars. If you put tri-bars on a funny bike the resulting position is usually too low for most riders so you will need a huge stem to raise it back up to near the level of a standard bike. Triathalons and some club level TT races will permit the use of funny bikes but they just really dont make much sense these days for other than nostolgia reasons.
I must admit that I raced back in the early 90's and built up a TT funny bike. Riding it for more than a flat 40K is unthinkable. I am in the process now of parting it out and scrapping it, I would much rather have the room in my collection for a more practical, conventional classic bike.
Small wheel TT bikes are somewhat of a competitive dead end. They are not legal for use in USCF sanctioned time trials. The position of the bikes was developed prior to scott type aero tri-bars. If you put tri-bars on a funny bike the resulting position is usually too low for most riders so you will need a huge stem to raise it back up to near the level of a standard bike. Triathalons and some club level TT races will permit the use of funny bikes but they just really dont make much sense these days for other than nostolgia reasons.
I must admit that I raced back in the early 90's and built up a TT funny bike. Riding it for more than a flat 40K is unthinkable. I am in the process now of parting it out and scrapping it, I would much rather have the room in my collection for a more practical, conventional classic bike.
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I realize that they are a competitive dead end... but dear lord do I want one. That Kronos has to be the coolest Bianchi I have ever seen, and I LOVE Bianchis!
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well that Kronos is a cousin to this Bertoni. I have been told that there is a '99% certainty this was built by Bianchi
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If you do want to buy that frame/front wheel/rear wheel Bianchi TT bike and plan to actually ride it, make sure it fits correctly. Ignore the seat tube length: you need to measure the effective top tube length, i.e., the horizontal distance between the head tube and the seat tube. If the measurement is within a centimeter or so of the top tube length of a conventional road bike that fits you right, you should be OK. The Bertoni in the pictures that Bianchigirll provided is a good example of a bad fit. A correctly fitting TT/funny bike will have no more than a few centimeters of seatpost showing.
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I have not even begin to adjust the seat hight, let alone the angle of the handlebars.
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