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Old 05-10-11, 07:11 PM   #1
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Cinelli Saronni

can anyone tell me what the little three-holed plate is on the bottom of the chain stay in the second pic?


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Old 05-10-11, 07:31 PM   #2
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Looks like a repair to me. When I built my first frame, I tried to set the rear end width before it had cooled down and I rippled the non-chain side chainstay. I used a fork reinforcement tang to strengthen it up. Likely the same idea here to repair a crack.

PS: The bike is not a Cinelli, it only has a Cinelli bottom bracket shell.
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Old 05-10-11, 07:32 PM   #3
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nice looking frame but I haven't a clue. I can't imagine it is some sort of stiffner.

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That's where they wire it into the box at Toys R Us, so no one steals it off the shelf.
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Looks like a repair to me. When I built my first frame, I tried to set the rear end width before it had cooled down and I rippled the non-chain side chainstay. I used a fork reinforcement tang to strengthen it up. Likely the same idea here to repair a crack.

PS: The bike is not a Cinelli, it only has a Cinelli bottom bracket shell.
I agree, and since it has the "can opener" IC Cinelli BB shell, I wonder if it's an attempt to protect the stay from future damage...naaaah.
Probably a repair, but note the tang added to the top of the BB, maybe a guy with more tangs then he had places to braze them.
Another half-thought: I thought Saronni was associated with Colnago, and that Ernesto had an allergy to anything with a Cinelli brand on it.
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Could it just be a Saronni fork? In Italy, you see a lot of bikes from small frame-builders, who'd use pretty much whatever parts they or the customer wanted. A friend of mine has a beautiful frame built by a shop here in Rome called Brunetti, which uses the same columbus tubing as the Colnago Master and has Cinelli BB, lugs etc. Also, the lugs used look like the ones I always see on the old Olmos.

http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...ugSeatTube.jpg

Also: nice-looking frame. Good luck with the bidding.
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The only thing "Cinelli" I see on this frame is the bottom bracket shell, and perhaps the brake bridge. The lugs look like Bocama "Professional" that were used on many different makes:

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My guess would be Saronni fork and something else. Here are some shots of my Colnago built Saronni. If the front drops are Saronni, so too should be the rears. Also, I would expect Saronni to appear on the tops of the seat stays.

I have little experience with the Saronni but I do like the one I have. I should let the frame set go to a new home as I will likely never get around to restoring it. But it does not take up much room in The Old Shed...





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