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Old 05-12-11, 08:02 AM   #1
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I've been doing some drilling...

Drilling, sawing, filing, sanding, &c.

See, the problem is that the post war Raleigh Record Ace came with a lot of parts made specifically for that model, as you can see from this old catalog page:



The stem was hand brazed from 531 using 'lugs' that resembled the lugs on the frame; very snazzy, and very hard to find now.

The pedals, and the crank, are even harder to find. And without the right chain ring, the bike just won't look right.

I did, however, get one of these on ebay. Which is where the drilling, sawing, filing, sanding, &c. comes in.

I'm not done yet, but it now looks like this:
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Old 05-12-11, 08:06 AM   #2
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Nice. Are you going to build up the three herons as well?

(or is the catalog picture not quite reality?)
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Pretty damned impressive. You're an old school artisan.
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Nice. Are you going to build up the three herons as well?

(or is the catalog picture not quite reality?)
From photos I've seen, of the real deal, the catalog picture is pretty accurate. My design is intentionally a bit different, on account of the 5 pin attachment rather than 3 arms.

I'm not quite sure how I'm going to do this, but I plan to incise the aluminum to bring the heron heads out better, give them their eyes and the waves lapping at the bottom. I'll probably file everything down a bit more, too, since it just looks too heavy as is (the thing is a full 6 mm thick!).

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Pretty damned impressive. You're an old school artisan.
Thanks! Just wait until I get started on your pedals! You may recognize them now, but when I'm done... ha!
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Outstanding work! I can only imagine how many hours you have in that ring...
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Old 05-12-11, 08:30 AM   #6
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Here's a photo of a real one.

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I was like, yeah, pretty nice, you modded a swaged raleigh chainring to make a TA-style bolt on. That's pretty cool.

Then I clicked on the ebay link.

Wow!
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Dang I love stuff like this, man after my own heart If you can't find it, make it.
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I think it's better that it's not the 3 bolt pattern, less someone in the future be fooled. I'd leave it a little on the heavy side so as to clearly see that it's intended to be an interpretation of the original and not a copy.

Exceptional work by the way!
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I think it's better that it's not the 3 bolt pattern, less someone in the future be fooled. I'd leave it a little on the heavy side so as to clearly see that it's intended to be an interpretation of the original and not a copy.
Yeah, that's basically what I thought. I wanted something that looks right on the bike; but I don't want anything fake.
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Resourceful and ambitious. Nicely done.
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That's cool, Rudi. I'm hoping that rear rack is next as I need one for my RRA!

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Old 05-12-11, 05:13 PM   #13
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rhm,
You sure you don't have a CNC machine in your garage you're not telling us about??

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Damn Rudi! That looks amazing!
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Old 05-12-11, 07:04 PM   #16
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Nice work. I like it. When are you going into production?
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That will look so good when you polish it...
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Nice work, very impressive. I think the main reason I've been hesitant to get into any pre-1960 lightweight bike projects is precisely the difficulty of finding parts, and the associated costs. I imagine it's less of a problem for those of you who live in Europe, since you're at the source.
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rhm, you have a special place in your heart for cottered cranks.

it must be awesome loving something no one else does
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Golly RHM - Half the people are afraid to service a cottered crank - and you made one. You are the exemplar of C&V resourcefulness!
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it must be awesome loving something no one else does
But IMHO that's absolutely the nicest cottered crankarm I've seen. The "drilling" you've done make a this crankset "pop". Great and inspirational work, rhm!
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Thanks, guys!

To be clear, the crank arm is a Constrictor arm from the 40's (or so). I've only been working on the chain ring for it. I got the arm on ebay not long ago; I've been bidding on this type of crank arm whenever they come up, figuring sooner or later I'd get one that wasn't too too expensive. It's steel, but really quite light; about the same as an aluminum Shimano 105 arm I have kicking around (but, to be fair, the 105 is longer; 172.5 versus 165 for the Constrictor).

Neal, what's so special about the RRA bag support? I've seen a couple in photos, but I haven't seen anything that would indicate it's better than an old Park bag support. Those things are really good. I have one on my Fothergill, and am very happy with it.
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Neal, what's so special about the RRA bag support? I've seen a couple in photos, but I haven't seen anything that would indicate it's better than an old Park bag support. Those things are really good. I have one on my Fothergill, and am very happy with it.
Rudi, they're made to fit those seat stay braze-ons unique to the RRA. Otherwise, I don't think the bag support works any better than another.

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Rudi, they're made to fit those seat stay braze-ons unique to the RRA. Otherwise, I don't think the bag support works any better than another.

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Yeah, that's what I figured. So it really depends on how strong the material is. I'm going to stick with the old Park support.
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Very nice work man! I hope to get an RRA some day.
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