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Old 05-25-11, 05:29 PM   #1
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Which Kool-Stop Salmons?

Sorry to be a board hog and ask these stupid questions, but which size of kool stop salmons do I need for my raleigh superbe? I was riding in the rain this evening and had to start braking about 50 ft before each stop sign. It was quite loud.

Or are brake pads a universal size? I guessing not.
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Or are brake pads a universal size? I guessing not.
You guessed right!

PS - Incredible as it may seem, I've never seen Koolstop offer anything resembling a Weinmann style shoe... I think the Continental is the closest they come and I personally do not like their modern plastic look. Functionally though I am sure they are excellent.

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Thanks. So I just order the continental and replace the whole shebang?
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Thanks. So I just order the continental and replace the whole shebang?
Yes and be prepared for quicker stops...

I agree that the continental is an pretty as the chrome holders, but the improvement in stopping is worth it. I think the campy pad refills (old style) from Kool Stop fit some of the old holders, but are a tad shorter. I believe that is what I used on my sister's Hercules.

EDIT: The shoe holders were John Bull and the refills were the old style campy.

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Yes and be prepared for quicker stops...

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They're quicker, but if it's wet you'll still need to start early. Several people on the Pepin Tour this past weekend had trouble stopping, and some of them had Koolstop pads.
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The problem is the Superbes have steel rims...and even though the kool stops are going to be a noticeable improvement, they're still going to be pretty terrible in the rain. Brakes and braking surfaces are one of the areas where, IMO, C and V love should always take a back seat to realism. If you want the Superbe to be a show bike, keep it as original as possible. If your plan is to seriously ride this, I'd either change out the rims or try and figure out other options (like a SA coaster and 3 speed hub).

Or...of course...there's just avoiding wet conditions and being very careful when you're in them.
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I have salmon Kool Stops on my three speed. It stops fine once the rims are dry. Until then, it keeps on going. To dry the rims, I brake for a few feet. So essentially, Kool Stops improve wet weather performance, but they don't completely make it acceptable. Ride slowly and carefully when it's wet out. Or upgrade to alloy rims. I might do that eventually.
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