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Old 05-26-11, 01:31 PM   #1
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My Used Bikestore Find: A Bertoni (a little help needed)

I'm not an authority on bikes, but I know good components. On my way back from trading for a another bike, I decided to stop by a bikeshop that sells bikes on consignment. I didn't recognize the name, but I did recognize the Columbus Tubing and Shimano 600 components. After renegotiating price and purchasing the bike, I hurried home to message Auchencrow on my find. Although I can't repeat his words, he was very excited for me.

Are there any Bertoni experts that can help me identify the year and model (and any other relevant information)?

Thanks for your help! This forum is great!

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I....I hurried home to message Auchencrow on my find. Although I can't repeat his words, he was very excited for me....

- I probably said "holy cow" - or something like it.
- That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Congrats on a great snag Bikemanbob!
(My guess is that it's a Bertoni Corsa Mondial.)
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Wow. That'll clean up REAL nice!
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+1 on a great find. If it's your size, all the more sweeter.
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Psh, its only Shimano 600. Might as well just feed it straight into the crusher.



only kidding, nice score!
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Flip it!....the front wheel's been laced all backwards!!


Nice find man!
Columbus what though?? SL? Aelle? Tretubi?
Whatever, it still a real nice find. Much more interesting than a Bertoni/Vitus 979, IMO.

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Looks a lot like my 1987 Corsamondiale.

I have a catalog posted here.

Look underneath the bottom bracket shell to see if you have a date code, example (mine) A.7
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what happened to my post? I was here before Auchencrow but my post didn't post stupid computer.

I had posted that I thought it looked like a 86ish Corsa Mondiale but now I look like a copy cat .
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Looks a lot like my 1987 Corsamondiale.

I have a catalog posted here.

Look underneath the bottom bracket shell to see if you have a date code, example (mine) A.7
great site and your Chrono Olympiad is beautiful
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Looks a lot like my 1987 Corsamondiale.

I have a catalog posted here.

Look underneath the bottom bracket shell to see if you have a date code, example (mine) A.7
Thanks to everyone for their positive remarks and help!

Underneath the grime and dirt, I found D 6. How do you interpret the date code?

And Yes, the bike is my size. This is my first European bike as a keeper.

Thanks for the catalog link.

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Thanks to everyone for their positive remarks and help!

Underneath the grime and dirt, I found D 6. How do you interpret the date code?

And Yes, the bike is my size. This is my first European bike as a keeper.

Thanks for the catalog link.

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6 = 1986
D = 4th fortnight (approx last 2 weeks of Feb)
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6 = 1986
D = 4th fortnight (approx last 2 weeks of Feb)
Thank you! Thank you! and more Thanks!

Your help is greatly appreciated!
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Nice find man!
Columbus what though?? SL? Aelle? Tretubi?
Whatever, it still a real nice find. Much more interesting than a Bertoni/Vitus 979, IMO.

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with that decal it's either all SL or all SP (if it was a large frame) or a combo of the two (like SL with an SP down tube).
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with that decal it's either all SL or all SP (if it was a large frame) or a combo of the two (like SL with an SP down tube).
Thanks for your help. According to the catalog, the frame is SL.

I've begun an initial clean-up and the paint appears very good. The decal have deteriorated, but the paint should shine. I intend to use scratch X as recommended. The fact that the decals deteriorated helped in obtaining the frame. Had the bike shop or owner recognized the value, I never would have been able to buy it.

Also, had I not been trading bicycles in another city, I never would have bought it. This is the bike that made the trip possible. (the bike came with brifters; I replaced with with barcons).

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Thanks for your help. According to the catalog, the frame is SL.

I've begun an initial clean-up and the paint appears very good. The decal have deteriorated, but the paint should shine. I intend to use scratch X as recommended. The fact that the decals deteriorated helped in obtaining the frame. Had the bike shop or owner recognized the value, I never would have been able to buy it.

Also, had I not been trading bicycles in another city, I never would have bought it. This is the bike that made the trip possible. (the bike came with brifters; I replaced with with barcons).

bob, that's too funny.
I did own an '87 Corsamondiale (alas, too small), and I still own an '83 Trek 600, being set up with barcons, same color scheme.
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bob, that's too funny.
I did own an '87 Corsamondiale (alas, too small), and I still own an '83 Trek 600, being set up with barcons, same color scheme.
Maybe we both have good taste!

The Bertoni is my size. I almost wish it wasn't. I thought I was satisfied with my collection, but this bike has me confused. I almost certainly will keep it, but that mean something else will have to go.
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Meanwhile, Bob, you need to tell us the name and location of this used bike shop.
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Hi David:

I can tell you that it is not the one I work at or the one you frequent!
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After Pictures!

For right now, I'm done, but I may purchase decals and replace them. Also, I kept the original tires that came on the bike, but I may replace them. I am very happy with the results!










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I don't care for the bottle cages and I think stem and seat post finishes should be more-or-less the same, but otherwise I think that's a pretty sweet machine.

What do you think of the ride?
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I don't care for the bottle cages and I think stem and seat post finishes should be more-or-less the same, but otherwise I think that's a pretty sweet machine.

What do you think of the ride?
Thanks for your feedback. The frame needed white bottle cages, but I didn't have the ones I wanted. I agreed with you--I'm not fan of them. I will likely replace them also. Interestingly, the stem and seatpost are original to the bike (as seen in the catalog).

I've only gone for a short ride, but I am very pleased.
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it looks great! I agree the black stem siver post look odd but alot of bikes did then.
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it looks great! I agree the black stem siver post look odd but alot of bikes did then.
Thank you Bianchigirl! The stem and seatpost didn't bug me until you and ColonelLloyd pointed it out. Now I want to change it . Your input is appreciated!
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Personally, I think it'd look best with a silver stem, but the current stem is pantographed and a black seat post will be easier to change and likely less expensive than the stem. If the stem wasn't quite tall enough or the reach wasn't just right I'd use that as an excuse to switch it.
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