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I think a lot of us buy bikes from people who don't know what the bikes are.
I saw a Peugeot PX10 for sale for 20 euros before. Was it stolen? no. Did the owner know anything about the quality of this type of bike? no. Did someone buy it within ten minutes of the ad coming out? yes. It happens all the time. Most classic bikes are discovered from people who have no idea what they have. |
I'm pleased for you. Can't wait to see pictures.
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well I will say there are probably millions of people using bikes that are just transportation to them, but jewels to us. I highly doubt the guy knew what he had.
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Originally Posted by Daveyates
(Post 12774006)
It reads nothing like that story.
The OP offered to buy the bike but the guy was more interested in having a bike for transport then receiving money. So the OP bought him a brand new bike in exchange. Two people walk away happy. ... That might have made the trade more equitable. And the guy with the new bike would have had a place to take it to get an initial tune up, probably for free. Or, buy the guy the wallybike and give him some cash. At least then he could pay to get it adjusted properly at some point. |
There is a huge difference between buying a bike from a craigslist ad where the person has no idea and says something like "got it from my dad" and getting it at a yard sale from someone who swapped it for a Next. Could it be up and up? Sure...it's possible.
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 12774165)
Then if reliable transportation is the true goal, why not take the guy to a real bike shop?
That might have made the trade more equitable. And the guy with the new bike would have had a place to take it to get an initial tune up, probably for free. Or, buy the guy the wallybike and give him some cash. At least then he could pay to get it adjusted properly at some point. |
Originally Posted by -holiday76
(Post 12774161)
well I will say there are probably millions of people using bikes that are just transportation to them, but jewels to us. I highly doubt the guy knew what he had.
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To be clear...I don't think the day laborer stole it...I think it's likely he got it stolen.
I've worked with a lot of illegals in my younger restaurant days...and the one thing they all had in common was being very, very law abiding. They were afraid of getting caught and being sent back over minor crap. |
Originally Posted by custermustache
(Post 12773557)
How did I do?
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Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 12774165)
Then if reliable transportation is the true goal, why not take the guy to a real bike shop?
One is how much a bike is going to run at a real bike shop versus what a as-is International is worth. I'm not really familiar with the entry level offerings at a LBS, and would be hesitant to put myself in that situation. Second is trying to explain to the guy that the fully suspended rigs are bull****, and he'd be better off with a simpler quality rigid or front suspended bike. And that no, you are not buying him a $1500 FSR rig. Probably the most plausible alternative would have been if the OP had a quality vintage hybrid laying around. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 12774206)
...I've worked with a lot of illegals in my younger restaurant days...and the one thing they all had in common was being very, very law abiding. They were afraid of getting caught and being sent back over minor crap.
why is it assumed that the bike was stolen? i see plenty of nice bikes being ridden around by people who couldn't give a crap what's between their legs. (based on the overall rough condition, ie. rusty components, rusty chain, dry rotted tires...) i've ridden a few of my nicer bikes to work recently... the first thing everyone does is lift it up and say "damn that's heavy", followed by "what's it worth?" or "what you'd pay for it?", then after i answer, "holy crap?! for that? it's just a bike man..." point is, people end up with bikes they know nothing about and have no interest in learning about, to most people it's just a bike. they're not all stolen, i've picked up a few gems myself for a great price and there's no shortage of posts on a daily basis here on BF to back that up. maybe those were all stolen as well. when you meet someone to buy a bike, is the first thing you tell them your honest opinion of what it's really worth? assuming they have it priced below what you know it's really worth. this non-english speaking fellow has a decent new bike, the OP has a nice old bike that's possibly in decent condition... win win... no one forced the guy at gun point to accept the offer |
First, you are being racist to assume it's stolen. Old men sell stuff all of the time, and I have bought my share of bikes for fractions of their "true" value - because lots of people see old bikes as old bikes. So this guy is a liar, because he doesn't speak English?
And as to ripping him off - this bike was transportation, nothing more. Now he has good transportation that he can reasonably depend on, rather than and old bike with nearly flat tires and rock hard brake pads - money for adjustment? Give me a break. I certainly hope that you negative nellies Paid full value for everything and never used your unique hard won knowledge to your advantage, for obviously that is bad behavior. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 12774206)
I've worked with a lot of illegals in my younger restaurant days...crap.
As I said in another post a few months back, most stereotypes are the result of ignorance. I'll stand by that. Scott |
So....when can we see some pictures of this old transportation bike Custerstache?
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Originally Posted by rootboy
(Post 12774266)
So....when can we see some pictures of this old transportation bike Custerstache?
Scott |
I doubt it was stolen... I've been gifted nice old frames because "you like bikes, right?"
It's hard to think in the mindset of someone that doesn't see an old bike as a treasure. I've seen people donate bikes worth hundreds to the co-op because they were just taking up space and they couldn't be bothered to tune it up or even post a CL ad. I know it's hard to believe but I can't see any real motivation for the labourer to lie about it and many non-cyclists have an adamant love for cheap dual-spring MTBs... they are quite popular at our co-op despite their terrible components and incredible heft. A lot of people like big cars and big bikes so I don't know why anyone would assume a non-cyclist would rather have a old racing bike than shiny new bike. |
Why is it that all the most recent C&V threads are turning into arguments? I couldn't even post my Masi Nuova Strada without a gang of cognoscenti kicking it about.
Lighten up - this place is starting to sound like A&S. I've been lurking, for the most part - there have been precious few interesting (or civil) threads to participate in as of late. Another thing: THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICTURES. -Kurt |
I'll get pictures soon, I promise.
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This one will have to stand in in the meantime:
http://perpenduum.com/wp-content/upl...od-bicycle.png Neal |
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First, this thread is worthless without pics. I will drive down and take them myself if I have to. :p
Secondly, gentlemen, please keep a civil tone and the P&R stuff out of the thread. There's no reason to think it's stolen, I see laborers riding bikes of all sorts around these parts, many bought from thrift stores, us C&V guys can't snag them all you know. |
Originally Posted by cudak888
(Post 12774470)
Why is it that all the most recent C&V threads are turning into arguments? I couldn't even post my Masi Nuova Strada without a gang of cognoscenti kicking it about.
Lighten up - this place is starting to sound like A&S. I've been lurking, for the most part - there have been precious few interesting (or civil) threads around here lately. Another thing: THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICTURES. -Kurt |
Originally Posted by custermustache
(Post 12773557)
For the price of a brand new NEXT powerclimber and a trip to Wal Mart to buy it.
I was driving to work and spotted the bike lying in the grass at a garage sale. I never see old ten speeds in my neighborhood, and I have the same disease lots of you do, so I pulled over to check it out - a quick glance told me that it was full campagnolo, including pedals. It had a naked chain wrapped around the top tube with a lock and a crappy rubber cover over the saddle. I asked the garage saler "How much?" She pointed to a paunchy middle aged guy who spoke no English - he just smiled and waved "no". Soon a friend of his (Who was riding a Magna) came over to interpret. I told the owner that I wanted his bike, and he said (through the interpreter) "I need a bike". I immediately offered to take him to Wal Mart and buy him a new bike, and he accepted. I followed them back to their apartment,wincingly watched him lock it up again with the naked chain, and then we took a quick trip to Wal Mart, picked up a Next Powerclimber in "rojo", two bottles of Gatorade, and made the swap. I haven't even looked at the bike, really, except as I loaded it into my truck. I'll remedy that tonight and take some photos. It has a Brooks Saddle under the crappy cover, and chrome lugs. There looks to be some dinging on the paint, and a couple of rust spots on the fork chrome. The previous owner is a day laborer, and told me that he bought it off an old man he did some work for. How did I do? Now lets work on some pics. |
Originally Posted by cuda2k
(Post 12774616)
First, this thread is worthless without pics. I will drive down and take them myself if I have to. :p
Secondly, gentlemen, please keep a civil tone and the P&R stuff out of the thread. There's no reason to think it's stolen, I see laborers riding bikes of all sorts around these parts, many bought from thrift stores, us C&V guys can't snag them all you know. cuda knows what's up. We roll deep in TX, yo. Lol. |
Originally Posted by clasher
(Post 12774304)
I doubt it was stolen... I've been gifted nice old frames because "you like bikes, right?"
It's hard to think in the mindset of someone that doesn't see an old bike as a treasure. I've seen people donate bikes worth hundreds to the co-op because they were just taking up space and they couldn't be bothered to tune it up or even post a CL ad. I know it's hard to believe but I can't see any real motivation for the labourer to lie about it and many non-cyclists have an adamant love for cheap dual-spring MTBs... they are quite popular at our co-op despite their terrible components and incredible heft. A lot of people like big cars and big bikes so I don't know why anyone would assume a non-cyclist would rather have a old racing bike than shiny new bike. The guy who owns this neglected International knows that it's old, but to him it's a ride to work. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D...ational_01.jpg Unfortunately for this bike, its owner works at the beach and leaves it in the salty air and sun all day... |
Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami
(Post 12775072)
+1
The guy who owns this neglected International knows that it's old, but to him it's a ride to work. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D...ational_01.jpg Unfortunately for this bike, its owner works at the beach and leaves it in the salty air and sun all day... It's wortha shot. I'd do it. Lol. |
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