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Old 06-11-11, 01:41 PM   #1
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I just scored a Raleigh International

For the price of a brand new NEXT powerclimber and a trip to Wal Mart to buy it.

I was driving to work and spotted the bike lying in the grass at a garage sale. I never see old ten speeds in my neighborhood, and I have the same disease lots of you do, so I pulled over to check it out - a quick glance told me that it was full campagnolo, including pedals. It had a naked chain wrapped around the top tube with a lock and a crappy rubber cover over the saddle. I asked the garage saler "How much?" She pointed to a paunchy middle aged guy who spoke no English - he just smiled and waved "no". Soon a friend of his (Who was riding a Magna) came over to interpret. I told the owner that I wanted his bike, and he said (through the interpreter) "I need a bike". I immediately offered to take him to Wal Mart and buy him a new bike, and he accepted. I followed them back to their apartment,wincingly watched him lock it up again with the naked chain, and then we took a quick trip to Wal Mart, picked up a Next Powerclimber in "rojo", two bottles of Gatorade, and made the swap.

I haven't even looked at the bike, really, except as I loaded it into my truck. I'll remedy that tonight and take some photos. It has a Brooks Saddle under the crappy cover, and chrome lugs. There looks to be some dinging on the paint, and a couple of rust spots on the fork chrome. The previous owner is a day laborer, and told me that he bought it off an old man he did some work for.

How did I do?

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Old 06-11-11, 02:03 PM   #2
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No idea what a Next Powderbinder costs, but I'd say you scored well. Great! What color?
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Old 06-11-11, 02:10 PM   #3
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Even if it wasn't a super cheap score it is a very original story. Enjoy the international.
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An original story, but kind of creepy.
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This reminds me of miamijim's tale of the Colian.
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Old 06-11-11, 02:36 PM   #6
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Everybody wins except maybe INS.
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Totally ripped the guy off/and yea-creepy
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He paid $50, and the bike needs brake pads, tires, and etc - to him it's a bike, and he got a ride to get a new one with shocks - his request and preference. He looked like a kid on Christmas day.

I don't think I ripped him off - he traded a beat up old bike for a brand new one - that stopped when he pulled the brakes.

Creepy? That's ridiculous. It's not like I hit him up for a bj. I traded bikes.
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Great story and well done!
You got a bike you wanted and so did he.
Most people see old classic bikes as just old bikes and nothing more.
I expect the guy is over the moon with his new bike and is probably telling his friends how some idiot traded his crappy bike for a brand new one!

You didn't rip the guy off.
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no, you didn't. Silly accusation.
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To me it reads similar to this recent event:

My kid gets a $10 bill traded to them for for a single dollar. The other wants to buy a cookie from the snack shack at school, forty cent purchase and they won't take a larger bill. Was it fair? the kid that wanted their cookie got what they wanted. The next day our kid was returning the 9 dollar profit to the other kid's Mom. The Mom was happy as she had given the child the $10 as it was the only money she had. We called the parents the night before, at about the time the desperately seeking cookie kid was getting a scolding. My child will make money the old fashion way, she will earn it.
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To me it reads similar to this recent event:

My kid gets a $10 bill traded to them for for a single dollar. The other wants to buy a cookie from the snack shack at school, forty cent purchase and they won't take a larger bill. Was it fair? the kid that wanted their cookie got what they wanted. The next day our kid was returning the 9 dollar profit to the other kid's Mom. The Mom was happy as she had given the child the $10 as it was the only money she had. We called the parents the night before, at about the time the desperately seeking cookie kid was getting a scolding. My child will make money the old fashion way, she will earn it.
It reads nothing like that story.

The OP offered to buy the bike but the guy was more interested in having a bike for transport then receiving money.
So the OP bought him a brand new bike in exchange.

Two people walk away happy.

Unlike your story which involved a kid wanting a cookie and didn't have any change.
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Everybody wins except maybe INS.
So if you don't speak English you've got issues with the the INS?

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I'm with the creepy crowd...and I'll go one further...it was very likely stolen.
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So if you don't speak English you've got issues with the the INS?


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I'm with the creepy crowd...and I'll go one further...it was very likely stolen.
I agree it's prudent to be cautious, but nothing about the day laborer's story seems incredible.

Especially if he was so pleased with his new Walmart bike... if he was a thief he could have done much better for himself.
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I'm with the creepy crowd...and I'll go one further...it was very likely stolen.
Why you think that?
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My circa 1975 International had no original components remaining, except the front wheel Campagnolo hub. It had been in a basement or outside for years, and had been ridden with no front tire--the rim was all scuffed up.

I disassembled and cleaned the bearings, added new cables, tires, brake blocks, and a chain. I needed a longer seatpost, too. I didn't try to fix the paint chips, I just used car paint restorer and waxed the frame after dipping the chrome bits in oxalic acid. The paint looks fantastic, and I don't mind the "patina" scrapes.





After. It cleaned up nice.




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I'm with the creepy crowd...and I'll go one further...it was very likely stolen.
And the evidence is ?????

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If this situation is a rip off, than this classic thread is worthy of capital punishment:

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The seller was a Methodist Women's thrift shop. I gave them $10 in donation, so it honestly cost me $20.
More info about my $10 Raleigh Professional...
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You're absolutely right...it's perfectly normal for an old man to pay a day laborer with a Raleigh International. Makes perfect sense.

Is it possible? Yes. Is it suspicious? Bet your rear end.

The entire story is frankly icky.
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More info about my $10 Raleigh Professional...

Big difference here Tugral, the seller spoke English.


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You're absolutely right...it's perfectly normal for an old man to pay a day laborer with a Raleigh International. Makes perfect sense.

Is it possible? Yes. Is it suspicious? Bet your rear end.

The entire story is frankly icky.
He said he bought it from someone he did some work for.
No one mentioned getting a bike as payment.
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He said he bought it from someone he did some work for.
No one mentioned getting a bike as payment.
You want to pretend that's a normal transaction, be my guest. It isn't and it's highly suspicious. If I saw someone with a Raleigh International who didn't know what it was, I'd assume it was likely stolen. Does it happen? Sure...not too often though.
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You want to pretend that's a normal transaction, be my guest. It isn't and it's highly suspicious. If I saw someone with a Raleigh International who didn't know what it was, I'd assume it was likely stolen. Does it happen? Sure...not too often though.
Wow.

I've bought quite few very nice bicycles that if based on the selling price, they must be stolen. Obviously, the seller, if they knew what they had, would have full market value on the price tag.

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