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Old 06-21-11, 02:10 PM   #1
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1983-86 Team Fuji - anyone ride?

I got an 83 team fuji in brown. It is a little big for me in the standover and I don't really care because I like the frame so much, and it rides comfortable.

My main question is how "fast" this bike is. It is my first road bike and I have no real gauge of how it compares in terms of potential speed and aggressiveness in geo. The gears were in need of serious work so I converted it to fixed rather fast and swapped in some 700x28 tires so I can commute easier. It feels quite light to me, but I'd love to learn more about the frame. I intend to get a bike computer soon and would like to see what speeds I can shoot for on it.

It was a perfect candidate for fixed..horizontal drops and downtube shifters..makes me wonder if they had racing in mind for it.
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I'd call the Team a "budget racer" in that it had traditional race geometry and not a huge price tag. I'd guess it's around 23-24 pounds fully built up, which I guess would be heavy by today's standards. That said, the bike is as fast as you can ride it. I know that doesn't help, but seeing as it's propelled by you and not a motor, it's not fair to ask which bike is faster than another. The fact that it's now a fixed gear is going to make that equation even easier - since you only have one gear, it's as fast as you can pedal :-)

Many people own and love Team Fujis. They represent an awesome value for a really solid bike that was designed for racing. I'd love to see a photo of it; they're one of the nicer looking C&V bikes around.

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Old 06-21-11, 02:19 PM   #3
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My main question is how "fast" this bike is.

It was a perfect candidate for fixed...
It's as fast as the engine will make it go. If you wanted fast, why fixed?
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Old 06-21-11, 02:25 PM   #4
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I've got an '82, same color and I believe the same geometry as the '83, though the tubing is different (according to http://www.classicfuji.com/1983_09_TeamFuji_Page.htm), double butted "331" versus the quad-butted tubing of the '83. They advertised them back then as entry-level racing bikes, though it seems more like a "sport-tourer" to me - long chainstays, reasonably comfortable ride. Of course, I don't have anything to compare to (other than my old gaspipe Ross, and it feels like a rocket compared to that). I like mine a lot, though I don't seem to go much faster than I do on my MTB, at least on my hilly commute.

Fuji had a track bike back then, and it looks like a different geometry to me.
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It's angles are more laid back than the next level up, Opus III (73x73 vs 74x75), and it does have longer chain stays.
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Good info guys. I only ask about speed because people ask on other forums if they need a "faster" bike for commuting and I am always wondering what that means exactly. I went fixed because there are no hills here and I know a good fixed rider can hit 30mph in this area and I intend to do the same. I also like the mechanical advantage I get back when I put in good effort.

Good points on chain stays..my current ratio is 39x19 I believe. I have some more parts coming for the bike, just a better seat and another wheel and then I will have pics up. I agree that the value is awesome, it is a quad butted steel frame and most of the track frames I was looking at for around $300 (price of the complete fuji was 200) are not the quality of that.
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These bikes are much faster with all their gears working. They proved this in the '30's. The team is a nice frame. I have the quad butted version and it's pretty lively. If you have the original gold chain in decent condition and original length, Ill give you $20.00 for it.


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These bikes are much faster with all their gears working.
What he said. Assuming the derailer isn't all bent up or something, I'm quite sure it wouldn't be difficult to get it working smooth again.
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It's as fast as the engine will make it go. If you wanted fast, why fixed?
I was thinking along the same lines. depending on your weight and riding style a x23 tire would be faster and oyu may not notice the ride difference
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30 mph on a fixed - good luck.
30 mph with 39X19 - cheers for trying.

Anyway, nice bike - pics please.
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Thanks, promise pics will come soon. I don't have the original gold chain. I don't like geared bikes, I wanted a classic frame I could convert that would be fast and I think I made a pretty good choice. I still have all the original parts (sans chain) if I decide to switch back, but I don't see it happening.
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I have a Flamingo 1985 Team Fuji. I received it as just a frame set. I've equipped it with mostly Suntour Cyclone components. It is fast. Well, it is as fast as I can make it go. 22lbs sounds about right.

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Since the topic is Team Fuji, I noticed that a pretty Team Fuji just went up on the Kansas City Craig's List. Too small for me and the asking price is too pricey - and it's the second one this week.
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...the asking price is too pricey...
Do you mean just more than what you'd(or most any C&Ver for that matter) pay or too pricey for a team Fuji in general? I'd think they would totally be worth it in good condition. I see much crappier bikes go for that all day long. It definitely wouldn't last more than a week at $350 or less around here. Granted it was in basically NOS condition with a good polishing on top of it, but my Club Fuji went in a few days at $375.
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Too small for me and the asking price is too pricey
You should just tell them
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Do you mean just more than what you'd(or most any C&Ver for that matter) pay or too pricey for a team Fuji in general? I'd think they would totally be worth it in good condition. I see much crappier bikes go for that all day long. It definitely wouldn't last more than a week at $350 or less around here. Granted it was in basically NOS condition with a good polishing on top of it, but my Club Fuji went in a few days at $375.
Sorry, I should have clarified: it's too pricey for around here. Better bikes go for less on a regular basis and vintage road bikes to most people in this area are simply "old bikes." I think it's a good price for a Team Fuji in general (and apologies: I didn't mean to hijack this thread.) To the OP: FWIW, the Team Fuji is a pretty decent road bike ... although perhaps not the fastest bike in the pack, it's not a turtle either. I'd probably pull the trigger on a Team or Club in my size.
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It's angles are more laid back than the next level up, Opus III (73x73 vs 74x75), and it does have longer chain stays.
Where do you get this info at? According to catalogs at Classic Fuji the angles and chain stays are the same as the Opus.
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An 86' Team that looks pretty nice just popped up on Columbus CL for $200.
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Where do you get this info at? According to catalogs at Classic Fuji the angles and chain stays are the same as the Opus.
Not in 1983.
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Here is a terrible picture of mine - it is in similar shape to the one in Kansas City, some rust under the bottom bracket but everything else is in nice shape. All original other than consumables, wish I had chosen something other than black for the bar tape when I re-wrapped it several years ago.



It is missing the seattube decal, has been since I bought it used in the '90s. It is my regular commuter in the 6 months of non-winter here, though when there's a chance of rain I usually will take the mountain bike instead.
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Not sure why I ended up with two copies of the pic in my post, can't figure out how to remove just one.
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The Team Fuji is a decent, inexpensive road or TT bike for the era. The seat angle of 75 degrees makes it hard to fit if you have long femurs. Something to keep in mind.

I, too, have a 1985 version, but in Victory Blue. The main triangle is quad-butted chrome-moly whereas the stays and fork are VALite, a "Vanadium / Aluminum / Manganese" alloy. I presume the VaLite bits increase the frameset weight a bit over a full crome-moly one; VALite was not as strong as cromoly and, therefore, presumably had slightly thicker tubing walls to compensate.

If anyone was wondering what the number "9658" means on a Team Fuji tubing ID decal, or any similar decal on another Fuji model, those are the quad-butted tubing wall thicknesses along the TOP TUBE and SEAT TUBE.

Here's mine with the stock drivetrain:



The current setup is with a 1st generation Dura Ace crank (to get a 39t small ring) and a Dura Ace 7401 RD (to allow a 28t cog in back). I also added Suntour Superbe non-aero brake levers. I'm not liking the generic brake lever hoods, but oh well. They feel comfortable at least.

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