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Old 07-01-11, 11:31 PM
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I picked up a free Motobecane at a garage sale.......

and am wondering if I can replace the old cotter crank and BB with a modern 68mm square taper. Will the threads match up? The frame indicates the bike was made in France so that makes me think it may have some strange/rare size. This will be my first attempt at working with such an old bike and going in blind, so I appreciate the help.
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free motobecane! suhweet! stay cottered - classic look - just use the right tool to remove the pins
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Yes you can...if you find the correct size bottom bracket cups. I did it way back in 1978. You most likely will have either a Swiss or French threaded BB. FWIW I used Campy cups in mine, because that was what was available at the time.

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JensonUSA seems to have a good supply of BB cartridges when you're ready to order...

https://www.jensonusa.com/store/sub/1...+Brackets.aspx
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Originally Posted by marley mission
free motobecane! suhweet! stay cottered - classic look - just use the right tool to remove the pins
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Unless there is a problem with the crank, changing to cotterless will degrade the looks and durability of the crank in exchange for a minor weight reduction and some grief/expense in finding a suitable spindle &/cups.

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If you decide to upgrade, you may be able find a spindle the right length and just replace that. If you have to buy a bottom bracket and crankset, the cost isn't worth it.
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I have done this a few times and I always used the cups that came with the bike, never had any problem.
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Iv;e done it twice.

The '75 came with english threading




This HAD swiss threading.Retapped to english.

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I don't know what's the hassle with cottered cranks? Loosen up the bolt but leave it on enough to cover up the threads(if you want to save them or sell them) and a few taps with a hammer or mallet. No need to deliver death blows just a few love taps and they always come right out.
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Originally Posted by marley mission
free motobecane! suhweet! stay cottered - classic look - just use the right tool to remove the pins
Agreed, I'd be happy to just to get one free. There is a nice one for sale locally for $150 and I thought that was good LOL.
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After this discussion now I'm thinking maybe just clean it up as best I can and leave it as original as possible. New chain, cables/housing, brake pads, tires/tubes. The frame has some rust on the stays and rear wheel will need to be replaced, but I just happen to have one that will work. I'll have to check ebay and see if these are worth the fixing.....the frame is too large for me.
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Originally Posted by Henry III
I don't know what's the hassle with cottered cranks? Loosen up the bolt but leave it on enough to cover up the threads(if you want to save them or sell them) and a few taps with a hammer or mallet. No need to deliver death blows just a few love taps and they always come right out.
You obviously HAVE NOT come across the pseudo welded cotters yet...

I have had to drill a couple out over the years, and that was after trying a cotter press and a large hammer. Not all cotters are going to gently tap out.

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