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Old 07-15-11, 05:24 AM   #1
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I thought this looked nice."New classic looking"

Reynolds 853 tube and looks good. The crank looks out of place though.
What do you think.

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Old 07-15-11, 05:34 AM   #2
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The horizontal TT looks right.
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Old 07-15-11, 05:41 AM   #3
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It's missing a few spokes. (Does that drop the price any?)
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It's missing a few spokes. (Does that drop the price any?)
The great spoke shortage has really hit the new bikes. With the economy the way it is the bikes in the 2012 model year will only have 8 spokes on each wheel.
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I like it. Even the crank works for the black/chrome look. Its a shame the new treadless headsets are so.....bulky looking. While I appreciate the modern technology and function of them, this bike is crying for a nice sleek polished alloy stem to compliment that chrome fork.
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the crank is ugly, also is it just the pic or is the....
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the crank is ugly, also is it just the pic or is the....
...fork shrunken?
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Raleigh has a couple nice looking new steel frames, this one being the most attractive, until you see the price tag.

I asked one of the LBS owners if he planned to stock any of the lugged Raleigh and he said he'd order one if someone it but otherwise their too pricey to have sitting around. He did have a Sojourn and a Port Townsend, not lugged but still a pretty nice looking steel frame.
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...fork shrunken?

I was leaning towards bent. there does not seem to be much rake.
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They are very pretty, but for $5500-6000, your money could be way better spent.
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There doesn't seem to be much rake at all and the bike is very short for the size of the wheels (700c probably.) Look at how close the rear comes to the seat tube and expecially the BB. There isn't room for a kickstand in there I don't suppose although kids today don't use them for some reason that I could never fathom.

Also, there seems to be not a lot of room out front too. Perhaps that is the rake issue but the clearances are pretty tight. Fenders look like they would be difficult to fit in there front or rear. Platform pedals would probably cause toe-overlap problems even without a fender (if one could even be mounted.)

To me this bike doesn't look classic at all. With the threadless head there is no adjustablity of the bars for height and with those wheels it's not suited for the road for anyone who isn't a lightweight. That crankset makes me want to barf. It looks like something out of Logan's Run or something retro-futuristic. So it's not very ridable for someone like me and of little use other than hanging in the garage or maybe on the wall over the TV.

Yes, I'm a retro-grouch. To be honest I was turned off the second I saw a derailleur so what do I know...
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Regardless of price, I like the frame. I wonder if they make a "threadless to quill" adapter....
I tend to favor the 9-sp Ultegra crankset for about as modern as would be aesthetically pleasing with a steel frame.

Regarding the price, my son could use a better truck.
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I could live with the threadless however, pretty much everything but the frame and fork would have to go
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I could live with the threadless however, pretty much everything but the frame and fork would have to go
I don't think so. The other way around is possible.

Probably the easiest is to just ditch the threadless fork and put on a new threaded and a new headset.

For the price of that bike I'd rather just have a Phil spoke threader and couple of $1000 bikes with the correct number of spokes.
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It is what it it is. Truthfully if Raleigh built a total Old School build with flowing fork, threaded stem and all, we'd probably toss it under the bus for being a retro-rip off cuz it did'nt have a Whitworth treaded BB or an oil zerk on the head set.

I like the Steel Road group for having a nice blend of contemporary & traditonal style with modern components. Would like to see a nice flow to the fork and some nicer lugs if your gonna chrome them!

I think the frame can be had from Soma for something like $550.
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Old 07-15-11, 09:05 AM   #17
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i don't see the point of chromed lugs if everything else is going to be "modern"

the colors, the stem, the drop bars, the antler brifters, the crank and rear derailleur are all wrong for the bike.. if you've got chromed lugs you need shiny silver components.

black/white/red as a color scheme for bikes is so boring and so overdone.. do they even make road bikes in other colors today?
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Regardless of price, I like the frame. I wonder if they make a "threadless to quill" adapter....
yes, they do. http://store.somafab.com/soqu.html

But it's ugly, and for the price, you could simply get a new threaded fork...1&1/8" of course, makes things more complicated when switching to threaded/quill.
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i don't see the point of chromed lugs if everything else is going to be "modern"

the colors, the stem, the drop bars, the antler brifters, the crank and rear derailleur are all wrong for the bike.. if you've got chromed lugs you need shiny silver components.

black/white/red as a color scheme for bikes is so boring and so overdone.. do they even make road bikes in other colors today?
chrome is so overrated. I much prefer a classy & subtle satin or brushed finish, Raleigh Sports components being the exception, of course.

And sure, there are plenty of companies putting out bikes that are not red/white and black: Soma, Surly, Masi, even Raleigh (just look at all the other steel framed offerings they have this year. Now, if we're talking about this popular red/white/black color scheme, yes, it is very popular among the modern carbon fiber racing crowd, but I see plenty of other color schemes out there as well.

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Really? I rather like chrome. It flashes in the sun. The world can always use more sparkle.
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Really? I rather like chrome. It flashes in the sun. The world can always use more sparkle.
that's what bugs me about it lol. It's hard to appreciate the details when glare is shooting through your eyeball like an arrow. Chrome has it's place on a few bikes, but it's not the end all be all of finishes.
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I bet that bike rides pretty well.

I like it.
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They went with carbon seatpost and threadless stem, they might as well put a straight carbon fork on it.
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I appreciate the nod toward the classic look of chrome Nervex lugs of the Raleigh-Carlton Internationals of the past, but part of what made those bikes look so beautiful involved the gorgeous alloy Campagnolo components. In some ways it reminds me of taking a vintage 1972 Jaguar XJ6 and mounting 24" spinner rims on it. At least it is a move in the right direction!
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It definitely looks nice, but $6g???

Figure the Dura Ace parts are worth, at a decent price, $2,000...wheels another $700...misc. $400...that makes this a $3,000 reynolds 853 frame...sorry, but IMO 3 grand for a stock 853 frame is OUTRAGEOUS.
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