Dual pivot only on rear
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Dual pivot only on rear
So.... Has anyone ever run a dual pivot-recessed nut type caliper on the rear and run a single pivot nutted type on the front? I'm still not sold on the idea of just putting a bolt through the front wall of my fork.
I signal with my left a lot and use my right for speed modulation while doing so. Having the dual pivot on the rear would give me a bit more in the way of braking but certainly not the full on stopping of one on the front.
Am I being ridiculous?
I signal with my left a lot and use my right for speed modulation while doing so. Having the dual pivot on the rear would give me a bit more in the way of braking but certainly not the full on stopping of one on the front.
Am I being ridiculous?
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Recessed or non-recessed (and dual or single pivot) should both go through both the front and rear walls of your steerer tube.
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Yes, so I'm avoiding that whole situation by only putting a front dual pivot on the rear with a nut and leaving a nutted single pivot on the front.
Potentially.
Potentially.
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Oh so you just don't want to drill out the rear hole in your fork? Is that it?
Whatever the reasons for your setup, I'd rather have the stronger brake in front or both equal personally. But I'm sure you could get used to it. At first you might lockup the rear wheel more than you'd want to, though.
I run single pivots front and rear on my Pinarello and have lived to tell about it so far, knock on wood.
Whatever the reasons for your setup, I'd rather have the stronger brake in front or both equal personally. But I'm sure you could get used to it. At first you might lockup the rear wheel more than you'd want to, though.
I run single pivots front and rear on my Pinarello and have lived to tell about it so far, knock on wood.
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It makes no sense to have a stronger brake on the rear unless you want to just lock up your rear wheel. Run a matching set of nutted brakes that are correct for your bike, or modify the bike to accept dual pivots front and rear.
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I was hesitant to concur, but once you said you normally rode with rear-priority braking, I would say "go for it."
It suits your technique, and you know what you're doing on your bike, adjust your technique to compensate, so no biggie.
I get a lot of bikes come into my garage with the rear braking area a lot more worn than the front, so don't feel like you're the only one....
It suits your technique, and you know what you're doing on your bike, adjust your technique to compensate, so no biggie.
I get a lot of bikes come into my garage with the rear braking area a lot more worn than the front, so don't feel like you're the only one....
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The exact proportion will vary from bike to bike and from rider to rider, but under general conditions the front will supply at least twice the braking power of the rear, so it is not only ridiculous but also dangerous to largely rely on teh rear brake.
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a single pivot brake on both, with a decent brake pad set, like Kool Stop,
will be fine.
I have Campag on my road bike, a CLB Set on my Brompton, both work fine..
will be fine.
I have Campag on my road bike, a CLB Set on my Brompton, both work fine..
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It's really just me thinking out loud (in print) and seeing other people's responses. I've already cold set the frame. I'm not certain why it would bother me to drill a fork.
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Is there a specific caliper you're wanting to use? Tektro makes great dual pivot brakes that use a nutted mount. Man, am I missing something here?
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Haha Justin, no not really missing something. It's just as dumb and crazy as it seems.
I've just not seen all positive comments on the Tektros. I've given them serious consideration. Here they get backed up pretty well. Elsewhere, people flame them a lot. The long reach ones are ugly as sin too, luckily i have no need for reach.
Think of it like this. Suppose a user doesn't like/trust/want to buy tektros, doesn't want to drill a fork, but feels limited by the current braking situation. There would be no harm in putting a dual pivot on the rear, no?
Like I said, I'm just thinking in print and seeing what other people's reactions are.
I do this a lot at work just to mess with people.
I've just not seen all positive comments on the Tektros. I've given them serious consideration. Here they get backed up pretty well. Elsewhere, people flame them a lot. The long reach ones are ugly as sin too, luckily i have no need for reach.
Think of it like this. Suppose a user doesn't like/trust/want to buy tektros, doesn't want to drill a fork, but feels limited by the current braking situation. There would be no harm in putting a dual pivot on the rear, no?
Like I said, I'm just thinking in print and seeing what other people's reactions are.
I do this a lot at work just to mess with people.
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I've used and setup enough new Tektros for people that I feel I have a good handle on them. I feel that I can say you will not be disappointed with their performance in the least bit. As for aesthetics, only you can say.
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I think you are being over concerned with drilling the fork. I have done this twice. The amount of metal removed is minimal and it is only the rear hole that is drilled out. Your bike, your choice, but there is no strength or durability reduction from the drilling out.
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You could also swap the brake levers. Make the right the front and the rear the left. That way when you're signalling you can still slam on the front brake and get maximum stoppage. If you ride an old British bike your frame's cable stops may already be positioned optimally for this.
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If you want to split brakes, I would put the dual pivot on the front and the single pivot on the back. All braking power comes from the front. The dual pivot can create that power a single cannot. On the rear though, a single pivot is generally strong enough to lock up the rear tire. You don't need any more power than that. Dual pivot back there would be overkill. 2009 Super Record (pardon my blasphemy) had dual up front and single on the rear to save weight and for the reason I outlined.
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You're a country boy, 20grit, so you'll know what I mean. You are essentially the rabbit who got into the chicken coop with this thread. Abandon this idea before we all peck you clean!
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