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Old 07-30-11, 08:25 PM
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Tullio would be proud...

...after all, I've added two more of his Nuovo Record RD's to the collection - in one week. I dare say we all appriciate his little jewel - even if some of us may disagree about its shifting characteristics.

That makes for one undated ('68/'69), two '73s, and one '81:





Of course, one must not limit themselves to derailers alone.



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I love that shadowbox of yours!

Are the NR derailleurs all alike, or are you accumulating different revisions?
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Kurt - I don't get this at all and I think Tullio would be confused. A bike part unattached to a bike has no value (other than economic).

Is this profit driven?
I'm leaving your quip up here, since it was deleted. Think twice before posting.

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I love that shadowbox of yours!

Are the NR derailleurs all alike, or are you accumulating different revisions?
There are slight differences between years, but they remained essentially the same until the parallelogram return spring was redesigned as a non-replaceable part. The early '73s and older RD's are also bushingless at the lower pivot. I've been compiling a list of parts differences.

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1. I didn't rate your thread and I have no idea why anyone would care.

2. I removed it because I thought it might be taken rudely and it wasn't meant that way.

3. I don't get it...sorry. Are you selling them? Is it a museum approach?
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
1. I didn't rate your thread and I have no idea why anyone would care.
Well, whoever it is has a burr up their seattube.

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Are you selling them?
Of course not. I like Nuovo Record RD's as a piece of functional art. If I had the opportunity, I'd like to acquire one example from each year.

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Of course not. I like Nuovo Record RD's as a piece of functional art.

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I don't get it, but to each their own.

I just finished rating other threads poorly to further my ruse...I've been planning this for YEARS!


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Those are all bikes that haven't been built yet

Keep up the good work Kurt
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Originally Posted by cudak888
I like Nuovo Record RD's as a piece of functional art.

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Me, too - however, I use them as canvases in most cases



"Functional art"; I like that. I know I labeled them as such years ago - and they certainly have style all their own.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Seeing that this thread was immidiately rated with one star...
-Kurt
How does one do that and what do they mean? I was under the assumption the stars began showing up after a certain amount of people had checked out the thread.

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There are ratings?

Where have I been?

How will I act?

I thought stars meant you'd paid your $3/month.

Now I have performance anxiety.
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Originally Posted by tugrul
Those are all bikes that haven't been built yet
I wish! The latest '73 RD came from a 1973 Raleigh Professional Mk.IV that was parted out - I didn't get to the frame in time to put it back together. Unfortunately, it was also too small for me.

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Me, too - however, I use them as canvases in most cases
You make them more than "functional art" - once you've done one up, they're absolutely divine.

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How does one do that and what do they mean? I was under the assumption the stars began showing up after a certain amount of people had checked out the thread.
There is a toolbar between the post title and the blue bar above the first post in a thread. The text "rate this thread" is a drop down menu that allows users to rate an individual thread:



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There are ratings?

Where have I been?

How will I act?

I thought stars meant you'd paid your $3/month.

Now I have performance anxiety.
The neighbors just called - they want to know why I'm laughing so loud.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
I'm leaving your quip up here, since it was deleted. Think twice before posting.



There are slight differences between years, but they remained essentially the same until the parallelogram return spring was redesigned as a non-replaceable part. The early '73s and older RD's are also bushingless at the lower pivot. I've been compiling a list of parts differences.

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Funny how you'd criticize me for deleting a post and suggest I think more...and than go back and edit your's because it was paranoid and weird. Afterthought isn't always bad ehhh? You certainly needed it.
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If it's this bad during the peak of summer, we might have to shut this place down this winter.
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Originally Posted by tugrul
If it's this bad during the peak of summer, we might have to shut this place down this winter.
Does that mean I'll have to set up hibernation headquarters somewhere else?

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Originally Posted by cudak888
There is a toolbar between the post title and the blue bar above the first post in a thread. The text "rate this thread" is a drop down menu that allows users to rate an individual thread...
-Kurt
Thanks for the lesson, Kurt - and the nice words.

Hmmm - now, should I consider the possibility of Robbie's noted "performance anxiety" and review my old threads to count stars? Or should I just let that sleeping dog lie?

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I'm not joining in the dog pile, but I do like the display of parts. Much better than the box in storage, or the like.

Drillium's work is stunning (as usual).

More photos, please! (Both of you.)

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OK, rebooting this thread...


Kurt, I like your shadowbox.

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Originally Posted by LeicaLad
...but I do like the display of parts. Much better than the box in storage, or the like.
I only wish I could display some of Drillum's bits in there.

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Kurt, I like your shadowbox.
Thanks! Granted, it's not a true shadowbox - the poor lighting in the room combined with the fluorescent bulb in the case causes my point-and-shoot to overexpose the pictures.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
I'm leaving your quip up here, since it was deleted. Think twice before posting.



There are slight differences between years, but they remained essentially the same until the parallelogram return spring was redesigned as a non-replaceable part. The early '73s and older RD's are also bushingless at the lower pivot. I've been compiling a list of parts differences.

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I am working on my set, the early ones before the patent date are elusive at an acceptable price, there are differences, the "pave" on the background changed, and the machining adjacent to the upper pivot got more production, and not finessed by hand... the toll of upping production.
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Originally Posted by repechage
I am working on my set, the early ones before the patent date are elusive at an acceptable price, there are differences, the "pave" on the background changed, and the machining adjacent to the upper pivot got more production, and not finessed by hand... the toll of upping production.
I'm familiar with the different texture on the outer parallelogram. The early examples - until 1970, I believe - had a randomized granular pattern, until they standardized the square diamond pattern (of which the squares were enlarged yet again, IIRC).

You have me with the machined bit though - not sure which part of the RD you're speaking of.

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Yep, I think the lighted shelf displays these quite nicely, and rather attractively. I like it.

EDIT: <gasp> I didn't see the vaunted Gran Turismo up there!
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Nice display (as always) and DD's work is inspiring... would have rated this thread better if not for the commentary.
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I have a couple of NR rear deraileurs siting on display on a bookshelf. When they're off the bike it's easier to appreciate how good they look by themselves. Kind of like a Rebour illustration highlighting a particular component.

5 stars from me.
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Originally Posted by Pars
EDIT: <gasp> I didn't see the vaunted Gran Turismo up there!
Would you believe that in the seven years I've been rooting through backrooms and looking through used bikes, I've seen exactly one? It was at the last Ft. Lauderdale vintage bike show. The derailer was severely oxidized with a pulley cage that had been twisted beyond recognition. The seller had the nerve to ask $35 for the mess.

Come to think of it, how many American-market bikes were actively sold by OEM's with the Grand Turismo RD as standard equipment? Other than the Schwinn Paramount P15 prior to the long-cage Shimano RD's, I can't think of any other popular machine with them. All the better.

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