hack jobs....
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hack jobs....
it's a shame what people do to nice frames, i was on ebay last week and saw this and forgot to make a post, take a look at the pics . It's sad.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinarello-Pr...ht_1348wt_1386
feel free to post any other sad cases...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinarello-Pr...ht_1348wt_1386
feel free to post any other sad cases...
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Being that the cable routing on both brakes and derailleurs is internal, this may have been a factory job.
Interesting that the paint around the threaded studs is not burned, which leads me to believe this would have been done prior to painting. The loss of paint around the cable hole is probably due to cable rub during shifting.
When I first saw this on Ebay, I thought the same. I've revised my take on it; I don't see that the approach saves much in the weight department, however.
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Interesting that the paint around the threaded studs is not burned, which leads me to believe this would have been done prior to painting. The loss of paint around the cable hole is probably due to cable rub during shifting.
When I first saw this on Ebay, I thought the same. I've revised my take on it; I don't see that the approach saves much in the weight department, however.
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but what about the de-railleur, it looks hacked up.
and the bolts coming out of the tubing, that's hideous
and the bolts coming out of the tubing, that's hideous
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I've seen a bike with similar cable routing in person and its kind of cool to see. I'd imagine there's some type of guide inside the BB.....
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Appears to be factory work... the internal cable routing does make things .001% more aerodynamic and leaves some clean lines.
Once the bike has cable housings running into the tubular guides on the frame they will not look as hideous.
Once the bike has cable housings running into the tubular guides on the frame they will not look as hideous.
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Amazing, but true...
I had one of Zinn's first frame awhile back, and the PO had drilled into the frame really shoddily (is that a word?) to run his cadence sensor. Always a bummer. You can't undrill a hole
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It looks to be a factory job indeed..... No way would anyone be able to weld those bolts inside the tube without destroying the paint. Then again, they could be epoxied in place. This gives me an idea
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Whew, that's a relief! I saw this thread title and thought someone had seen one of my bikes!
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if it is a factory job, you'd think they'd do cleaner cuts and drilled holes and whatnot, it just looks like my 4 year old cousin got ahold of a drill and the frame and did some practice tool and die
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Note: unusual attachment of the Campagnolo front derailleur, see picture 11 and 12, I've never seen before
Anybody ever seen a similar front derailleur? Looks like a horrible idea, how do you remove those bolts from the inside of the seattube without going down from the top?
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I think this is really interesting. How are the bolts held in place? Can they be removed and if so how? Is that drilling (both frame and dr) factory or not? I think it looks tremendously cool, and the idea is rather obvious, and the attachment is quite elegant as long as you don't want to change anything.
Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?
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Don't know what you guys are looking at, but this a cool attempt to get rid of the der clamp pre "braze-on" and run the cable inside the tube. The hole looks like a piece of tubing has been brazed inside as a guide. If your 4 year old cousin is that good now he should be something when he's in long pants.
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I think (read that as "know") I could do a much better job with a drill. I mean, use a file to start a flat spot that a larger bore drill bit would round out perfectly. You could probably get it more perfectly oval too by angling the drill bit ? Clean up any rough edges with a file and paint the frame if it's factory, touch up if it's a custom work shop job ? Some of these high end frames that I've seen have some really good work done for the top tube, yet when the down tube or other areas are done, the work looks like they turned a 12 year old with his father's Craftsman power tools loose on it ?
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I think (read that as "know") I could do a much better job with a drill. I mean, use a file to start a flat spot that a larger bore drill bit would round out perfectly. You could probably get it more perfectly oval too by angling the drill bit ? Clean up any rough edges with a file and paint the frame if it's factory, touch up if it's a custom work shop job ? Some of these high end frames that I've seen have some really good work done for the top tube, yet when the down tube or other areas are done, the work looks like they turned a 12 year old with his father's Craftsman power tools loose on it ?
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Was that a production campy derailleur? I don't envy the person that needs to replace that front derailleur if it fails or even the person that needs to run a fresh cable to it.
I guess I just like standardized clamp-on derailleurs and I'm not into the braze-on derailleurs anyways (since I don't have any in my parts box), so grain of salt etc.