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Old 09-01-11, 02:52 PM   #1
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Mystery steel frame ID? Googled to no avail. Pics inside.

My buddy has a mystery frame he acquired for free. He's taken the fork out and stripped all the paint off the frameset.

I'm told it once wore a blue-to-white paint fade scheme. That could mean anything from Nishiki to Colnago. I don't think it's either.

The biggest clues seem to be the bottom bracket clovered petal cut outs and the Club/Clover detailing.

He didn't have the fork at his place. All I saw was the bare (literally) frame and Tange Levin headset.

Any thoughts? It's very light. Nothing but the frame and headset not withstanding.

I'll take more pictures if needed. I wasn't there long and was shaky from a motorcycle ride/coffee.





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I don't know much, but the drop outs don't have any markings? I know with my mysery bike I narrowed it down by hunting down the right style for the serial, matching it to the company but that took a lot of hunting through obscure websites. Someone will probably recognize the lugs/BB etc though!
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That seat lug window looks very familiar but can't place the name...

I think DrilliumDude did some work for someone who had a frame with the same triple-circle detail.

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I don't know much, but the drop outs don't have any markings? I know with my mysery bike I narrowed it down by hunting down the right style for the serial, matching it to the company but that took a lot of hunting through obscure websites. Someone will probably recognize the lugs/BB etc though!
The dropout photos are very poor. I called my buddy to see if there's something stamped in those. The dropouts are fairly vertically-angled, not horizontal like a track frame.
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Need more pictures! If you can sideviews lug, and reverse angle on that seatpost. The lug triple circle looks very similar to some Mercian's.
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Need more pictures! If you can sideviews lug, and reverse angle on that seatpost. The lug triple circle looks very similar to some Mercian's.
Yes sir. I have this one:





I thought Mercian as well but the ones that popped up on google look a little fancier in lugwork. Maybe that was a top end model.
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Are those race cups engraved? If so what do they say? LoL this is bugging me as much as one of my own bikes.
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Are those race cups engraved? If so what do they say? LoL this is bugging me as much as one of my own bikes.
On the head? Tange Levin.
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My buddy has a mystery frame he acquired for free.

I've got a '70s Davidson with lugs drilled that way, but the BB shell doesn't have those cut-outs.
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Old 09-01-11, 04:19 PM   #11
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I've got a '70s Davidson with lugs drilled that way, but the BB shell doesn't have those cut-outs.
He mentioned Davidson but didn't quite think his frame was a Davidson, either. Maybe it's a copy.

Thanks to everybody who's checked out this thread and offered information.
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He mentioned Davidson but didn't quite think his frame was a Davidson, either. Maybe it's a copy.

Thanks to everybody who's checked out this thread and offered information.
ahh yes, Davidson, that's what i was thinking of...


Seat cluster by amoll68, on Flickr


i remembered the drillium, but now that i found the Flickr i was after, it's not DD's work, sorry Jeff


anyway, lugs look similar but that BB shell is still unusual
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I'm betting it's a Nishiki ONP. I had one as a team bike with the Montrose Cycle Club in the late 70s. Mine was a champagne color.
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Sweet. ONP? Wouldn't it have more horizontal pullback dropouts? (You tell me, serious question)
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Sweet. ONP? Wouldn't it have more horizontal pullback dropouts? (You tell me, serious question)
Mine had vertical dropouts, but others had horizontal.

They were light but fragile. The team let me keep it when I retired from racing, and it cracked the drive side chainstay JRA in the park with my girlfriend/future wife. I saw others cracked at the bottom bracket/seat tube and on the downtube near the shifters.

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Nice. I'll present him with my findings in a couple days.
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I'm betting it's a Nishiki ONP.
That's what I was going to guess based on the BB shell cut-out. Only place I've seen that before, but might have been used on another high-end Nishiki model as well, can't remember. This is (another) time we really need T-Mar.
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Check the pics of a Bicycling Magazine scan on this guy's Flickr page:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ga_mueller/page18/
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Check the pics of a Bicycling Magazine scan on this guy's Flickr page:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ga_mueller/page18/
Yeah, that's near-conclusive right there. GREAT find.
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You guys are the coolest. Thank you. BTW- Where's T-Mar? Haven't seen him much since I registered in '09
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Glad you found out what it was, I was stumped. Well time to add another tiny morself of knowledge to the stash.
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