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Old 09-20-11, 09:36 PM   #1
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Campy Hubs: ID these sumbits, please.

I two sets of very similar hubs. One is laced to 700c clinchers. One laced to 700c tubulars. They are very similar but I feel that they are different. Velobase has like 5 hubs that all look like they could be possible winners. Freaking Campy... What do you guys have to say?

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Old 09-20-11, 10:40 PM   #2
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Which one?
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Do you have a date code on the locknuts? Pinning down the year can [sometimes] help pin down the group.

For these it sould be on the outside of the locknut, so no disassembly required - BUT - you may need a magnifying glass to make out the digits.
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Yeah, a lot of the mid-range 80's era Campy hubs looked like those. Probably because the hub shells were 99-100% the same, maybe a slight different quality of finish, some had different skewers, etc. Date codes would help, but be them Athena, Chorus, Victory, Triomphe, they are all good quality hubs.
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Do you have a date code on the locknuts? Pinning down the year can [sometimes] help pin down the group.

For these it sould be on the outside of the locknut, so no disassembly required - BUT - you may need a magnifying glass to make out the digits.
Lol, I'm 26. No magnifying glasses yet.
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Old 09-21-11, 04:27 PM   #7
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Yeah, a lot of the mid-range 80's era Campy hubs looked like those. Probably because the hub shells were 99-100% the same, maybe a slight different quality of finish, some had different skewers, etc. Date codes would help, but be them Athena, Chorus, Victory, Triomphe, they are all good quality hubs.

in my experience the only real way to tell was the style of the skewer
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Did you guys not notice the differences in cone locknuts and finish shape on the edge of the hub body where it meets the dust cap? The clinchers (first set of pics) have a smooth radius edge on the hub body. The tubulars have a sharp edge on the hub body. The tubular uses locknuts that require a 13mm cone wrench like the cones themselves.

The clinchers have a date of '84 btw. I'm assuming Victory/Triomphe.
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Old 09-21-11, 06:17 PM   #9
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Which one?
The only significant difference between Victory and Triomphe hubs is the finish. All the insides are identical, and the shells are also identical except Victory is better finished. My guess is those are Victory hubs.
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Old 09-21-11, 07:41 PM   #10
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Well I'm calling the clincher set Victory then. Now, on to the tubulars...as soon as I get another 13mm cone wrench.

Are you sure Victory is above Triomphe. I thought it was the other way around.
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Old 09-21-11, 07:49 PM   #11
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When you put them on ebay, just list them as Campagnolo hubs. You'll probably get more that way than indentifying them as Triomphe or Victory.
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You think there'd be any interest in the tubulars on here? I'm getting burnt out on Ebay+Paypal fees.

I'm keeping the clinchers unless someones makes me an offer.
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I'm not. There may be some here who are, but with those hubs, you won't get much. You probably wouldn't get much on ebay either, but what do I know.

My previous response was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, because you will get a good price if some uninitiated bidder (or two) thinks they are C-Record or similar hubs.
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Old 09-22-11, 06:32 AM   #14
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Nice wheels! Way newer than what I ride, though, so I couldn't say which ones they are. Just list them as Campy- somebody will buy them. I'd buy the tubulars for $100, but I'm cheap..
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Nice wheels! Way newer than what I ride, though, so I couldn't say which ones they are. Just list them as Campy- somebody will buy them. I'd buy the tubulars for $100, but I'm cheap..
I've got a set of Nuovo Tipo hubs laced to Nisi tubulars if that would suit your fancy.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-tubular-dude!
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I like the Tipo hubs just fine, also rim selection and spokes. Funds are dangerously low for the next couple of weeks, though.. If they are still around and you are still willing to go forward, I'm interested. If I can flip a bike or two, it would be sooner. Thanks for the heads-up!

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Sounds fine with me.
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