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    Help! Bianchi Campione D'italia FRONT DERAILLEUR....also, what year frame is mine?

    hello!

    i am almost finished building a Bianchi Campione D'italia frame for my fiance since shes been getting into cycling.

    it is this exact model (not this exact bike....i found this on google)



    everything on it is set, rear derailleur shifting very smoothly....but then i encountered a problem trying to install a FRONT derailleur...

    i had a shimano 600 tricolor bolt on front derailleur in the parts bin. bolted it on, and when i tried to run a cable up from the bottom bracket to the cable clamp, it....how should i say....the cable clamp on the derailleur is in a position where the cable touches up against the rest of the derailleur.

    basically it seems to me that this frame is made to work with a front derailleur where the cable clamp is a touch further out. maybe campy front derailleurs are a bit further out?

    maybe this frame is meant to work with campy front derailleurs and not shimano?


    thought i would throw this out there, maybe some of you know what im talking about. i can post pics when i get home later if that helps.

    buuuuut maybe some of you out there just happen to know the make/model/and/or year front derailleur would work on this frame.....or know of some online database somewhere i could look...or maybe theres some scanned catologs of bianchi stuff from the late 80's to early 90s.....ive seen a site that had peugeot....

    and lastly, does anyone know what year frame i have?


    sorry for all the questions, and thanks in advance for your time!
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    Not usually an issue - I've had setups that touch, but not in a severe way to cause excess wear.. BUT:

    Check your cable routing. It may even look correct without being run properly. If you have two "arms" on the clamp, one that goes to the "side" of the swing arm, and one that rests on "top" - the cable should run above the lower one (between the two arms). You may have it running below it.
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    Hi,
    I dont understand your problems with the FD,????
    Fd is not working properly (move the chains),????? inner cabel can not work, or ?????

    maybe you can clarify the issues on FD>>>>

    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex Pres View Post
    Not usually an issue - I've had setups that touch, but not in a severe way to cause excess wear.. BUT:

    Check your cable routing. It may even look correct without being run properly. If you have two "arms" on the clamp, one that goes to the "side" of the swing arm, and one that rests on "top" - the cable should run above the lower one (between the two arms). You may have it running below it.
    its more than just touching, its actually bending slightly around the body of the derailleur.....
    to clarify, what i guess i meant to say is this is a BRAZE ON derailleur, so there are no two arms or clamps....you know the bolt/cinch thingy that cinches down the cable? well on this setup it seems like it needs to be an 1/8th inch or so out more in order to have a clean line from the bottom bracket cable guide up to the bolt/cinch.

    i guess a picture is worth a thousand words so ill take a picture soon
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    Pictures of the problem, coupled with your information, would help solicit better answers.

    As for the year of the bicycle, have a look at How Old Is My Bike? and apply some of the information that you find there.

    Hope this is a help.
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    Fisrt how about a few good pics? I do think asfar as the cable routing it soundslike you are OK. I have see FD cables that seem to brush up against the FD and it works fine.

    more important may be the model of the FD in relation to the model of shifter and the number of speeds in the rear. I think you need a FD designed for the STI shifters but I am not sure just what 620? model number it is.

    you frame looks like a mid to late '90s model. an exact year can be tough to pin down since frames themselves, aside from color, do not chage muh from year to year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illdthedj View Post
    BRAZE ON derailleur, so there are no two arms or clamps)
    The "arms" I'm referring to are the extensions on the clamp washer, the thing underneath the clamp bolt.

    Edit: tab is a better word, but in my old age I couldn't come up with it myself.
    Here's a pic showing what I'm talking about. Your cable needs to run above the lower tab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex Pres View Post
    The "arms" I'm referring to are the extensions on the clamp washer, the thing underneath the clamp bolt.

    Edit: tab is a better word, but in my old age I couldn't come up with it myself.
    Here's a pic showing what I'm talking about. Your cable needs to run above the lower tab.
    OOOOOOH in your first post i thought you were referring to......nevermind, it dosn't matter. i have a feeling this is exactly what i am doing wrong. ill try adjusting this when i get home....thanks so much in advance!! (and if this isn't the fix then i will have to retract my thanks. just kidding)
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