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Old 09-22-11, 09:59 AM   #1
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Any advice for mounting a Campy NR derailleur to a frame that doesn't have a hanger?

I traded my 63 cm Motobecane Grand Jubile frame, with Suntour VX dropouts, for a slightly smaller Jeunet frame with relatively plain dropouts (thanks, Justin!). The Jeunet dropouts do not have a derailleur hanger.

I would like to use all the Campy NR gear I have kicking around, including a derailleur that I took off the Motobecane.

So my question is, what kind of derailleur claw do I want? Can I use one off a cheap Suntour derailleur, for example? If so, are there any particular tricks I need to know about?
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Old 09-22-11, 11:28 AM   #2
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I'd think the Suntour would work. I used a chrome Suntour on my chrome Carlton years ago with a NR rear. Campagnolo made them too.
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. . . with relatively plain dropouts. . .
Burn, sucker!

The dropouts are French AND chrome, though. So, you're welcome.

A chrome claw would be awesome. I'll look and see if I have one (that you probably sent me). I suppose it's worth mentioning that there were different lengths and longer ones would help you shift bigger cogs. I've seen a couple Suntours that were really long.
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^^^ What Justin said. Any Suntour claw should work fine with a NR. And hey, neat, you'll have a Jeunet, too. The frame you got from Justin is very similar to My Jeunet frame, but with a slightly longer seat tube and slightly shorter top tube. I'm going to be converting my Jeunet back into a road bike shortly, even though it made a very nice riding bike with city bars.
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Yes, Suntour, Shimano, and Campy hangers are all functionally equivalent.
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Yes, Suntour, Shimano, and Campy hangers are all functionally equivalent.
Heck, probably even Zeus, Triplex and Gambato for that matter...
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I have a satin silver colored one I don't need if you'd like it. I believe it's the same as this one: http://harriscyclery.net/product/var...r-claw-963.htm
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Not to jump your thread RHM but I'm interested in the responses. I tried a Nuovo Record rear on a Campy claw that came off another Campy derailleur and the "stop" was in the wrong position, i.e.; wouldn't work. Are all those claw hangers mentioned virtually the same shape/design as the Campy claw that fits the NR? Thanks
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Campy claw that came off another Campy derailleur and the "stop" was in the wrong position,

Hmm, that surprises me. Campagnolo has been the dropout standard (except for the French) since the 50s.
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I recall now. I tried one off a Gran Turismo. Completely different claw. The one off the Vallentino worked, but did allow the derailleur to tilt 10 degrees farther forward than on a conventional drop out. Now that I know that other manufacturer's claws should work on a NR rear, I'll search some out at the LBS. Thanks
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Thanks, guys!

I am pretty sure I will find a Suntour hanger or ten in the stash-O-crap distributed around my cellar, and will reach for the longest of them. I think there's also a Campy one, from a Valentino, which I was considering. Note the past tense!
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I can't believe your actually using a derailleur in the first place.
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I can't believe your actually using a derailleur in the first place.
I'm talking about using a derailleur. Talk is cheap!
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Yeah, i'm talking to my wife about going for a bike ride today... yet here I sit typing.
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