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Old 09-23-11, 08:07 AM   #1
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Colnago help

Hi, First post, hopefully not the last

I recently purchased this at an amazingly low price $300 AUD, and I would like to work out what model it is. It has colnago stamped dropouts, and the serial number on the dropout is 1b723

The original owner told me it was made from columbus sl tubing and that he purchased it 17 years ago but how can I confirm or deny this?.

I'm pretty sure it has a 94 ergo groupset with some C-Record parts. It also came with Deltas. I think the cranks and deltas have the century finish but I am not 100% sure. I will let the pictures do the talking. But any insight at all would be appreciated.
















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Old 09-23-11, 03:42 PM   #2
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Quite a score! A Superissimo perhaps?
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Nice bike, nice group. There are charts available for tubing sticker ID>
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Quite a score! A Superissimo perhaps?
I think this is ballpark. My guess, given the tubing decal, which makes me think SL, is that it's a Super. At some point in the 80's (i.e. prior to this bike's existence), the Superissimo was made from SLX, and the chrome was no longer the distinguishing feature of the Superissimo vs. the Super. The Super Sprint, OTOH, would be Cromor.
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I can't read the Columbus tubing decal, so I can't be for certain - but this sure looks like a Super Sprint to me. If so, the decal will read "Columbus SL Cromor." The BB cutout is different than mine though.
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The decal says "Tubi Rinforzati Garantiti Acciaio Speciale"

It also has a 27.2mm seatpost. I cant find many if any, super sprints past the late 80s on the net.
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The decal says "Tubi Rinforzati Garantiti Acciaio Speciale"

It also has a 27.2mm seatpost. I cant find many if any, super sprints past the late 80s on the net.
I think it's a Super. A tad odd it doesn't have the later SL decal that actually says SL - but that's my guess. Definitely 90's.
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hmm Im not 100% sure. Most supers I have seen either have no stamp on the top of the seat stays but mine has the clover cutout.
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anyone support the colnago super theory?

and do the deltas look to have the century finish?

here are some more pictures.





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To my eye, yes, it is the century finish but it could just be the lighting. The cranks also appear rather dark, could they have it too?
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yeh I think they do. They are darker then the normal C-Record cranks. does that add to the fetching price?
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Obviously a fake.I'll take it off your hands for $330 AUD.O.K.?
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My guess is a late 80's or early 90's Super frame. More specifically, I'm going to guess at 1991 when I think the century finished Record gruppo was first available. The reason I am guessing 1991 is that the headset looks to have a century finish and, being a headset, it is quite possible it was fitted from new. I think the 'brifters' were a later addition. I think your bike was originally fitted with a c-record gruppo.

I do have a few reservations though: Why don't the F & R derailleurs have the century finish? Could they have replaced the original century finished items? Or, were the century finished components added later by the original owner. Did you get any information about the make-up and history of the bike from the previous owner? He must have purchased it in 1994, (about when the brifters were made) and probably from the original owner.

It is interesting to see the curved front forks fitted to the frame. I bought a new Colnago frame around that time and was offered either curved or straight bladed forks. The Cinelli engraved stem is also a nice addition.

I think you got a bargain especially with the century finished components and the stem.
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hmm Im not 100% sure. Most supers I have seen either have no stamp on the top of the seat stays but mine has the clover cutout.
The clover cutout became fairly ubiquitous on Supers sometime in the early 1990's - and on Colnagos generally at that point. If it's late 80's, it's very late 80's - like 1989.
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I think you are the winner

http://www.lfgss.com/thread62648.html

mine looks exactly the same*

the one in that link has the cable routing coming out the top, where as mine is from the bottom.
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How would this frame have rated? was it a higher end frame?

btw all of the components are for sale, so is a 27.2mm fluted super record seatpost. make an offer.
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It's not a "higher-end" frame within the Colnago scheme of things, but in the overall road bike scheme of things, it's fairly nice. At first, new tubing shapes superceded the ""plain-shaped" Super tubing and pushed it down the lineup. Then, new tubing types (SLX, TSX, then a whole new generation of steels) contributed to the same effect. The Super became a sort of retro afterthought within the Colnago pantheon, which prided itself on being on the leading edge of new developments in frame making. It was kind of a reluctant nod to Colnago's roots. But as I say, still a nice frame, and quite possibly a very nice ride - in this case, that's what really matters. No reason a Columbus SL couldn't provide a given rider with a better ride than a frame with fancy shapes and more "exotic" tubing.

BTW, if you're trying to sell, there's a right way and wrong way to do it here ...
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Good point Picchio about SL.

I still have several Cyclex framed bikes that are outstanding riders.

Just depends on the type of ride I am going on that particular day.

The group I am riding with this morning is going on a breakfast ride, and several of these fellows are down to an occasional ride every month.

Nice conversations, lower speeds, and great camaraderie.

I think an SL framed Super would be neat for a day like today.

There would be plenty of performance available.
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BTW, if you're trying to sell, there's a right way and wrong way to do it here ...
Thanks for the advice on the bike.

I am new to this site so I'm guessing the right way would be to pay the $3 dollar fee and post them up there?
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