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Old 09-23-11, 09:49 AM   #1
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Peugeot Premiere - need help

Hi,

I was wondering through a car boot sale in north London last week and came across a Peugeot Premiere racing bike. I had been looking at buying a road bike, and then this classic styled racer just pop's up...... and I love all things classic/vintage.

Anyway I have no idea about bikes at all, and was wondering if anybody out there could shed some light on this bike that I have brought home.

It has steel bars, steel wheels, says made in france, 700c wheels. I found a small white stick with the following info -
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P10M 60

Im going to keep its classic looks but i will be changing a few things on it. Was just wondering if its a good bike or not??? any info anyone could possibly offer would be greatly appreciated.

Oh and I paid £30 for it at the boot sale, only the brakes needed adjusting and the tyres needed some air and away I went.

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Old 09-23-11, 10:11 AM   #2
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Looks like a Carbolite 103/PH10S variant, (from maybe 1983. It's a good one though, as it seems to have DT shifters instead of the usual stem shifters that was orginally specified for PH10s. It's a good solid bike and can be modded up to be something lighter/faster with better wheels and drivetrain, but don't expect it's value to rise respective to any mods as it will always be considered an entry level sport bike from Peugeot.
You should have fun riding it if you decide to keep it as it will ride very nicely and is a tough bike (frame) that will take on a lot of road punishment you can dish at it..

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Old 09-23-11, 10:14 AM   #3
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+1 Its a P10M, like the sticker says. Those stickers that Peugeot used for a while are great. I wish other brands would have done this.


Pretty basic bike, entry level, not a lot of value, but at the price you paid, nice deal!

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Yes, nice bike. But if thats your saddle position it might be a wee too big for you?
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Peugeot Premiere - need help

Chombi - Im not looking to sell the bike as I have been looking for a road bike and now I have this. I just going to fix it up a bit and get it on the road. You metioned better wheels and drivetrain.... can you point me in any particular direction???

javal - thats the bike as it was straight from the boot sale, the seat has been adjusted now.
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Old 09-23-11, 10:48 AM   #7
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Chombi - Im not looking to sell the bike as I have been looking for a road bike and now I have this. I just going to fix it up a bit and get it on the road. You metioned better wheels and drivetrain.... can you point me in any particular direction???

javal - thats the bike as it was straight from the boot sale, the seat has been adjusted now.
Not familiar with that particular model, but if it does not have them you can get aluminum rimmed (with hooked edges, so you can run tires with higher pressures) clincher wheels that are narrower, something like 20mm wide maximum, so you can put in lighter narrower tires with less rolling resistance and quicker acceleration. Mavic Module Es were very popular in the 80's as good light and reliable sport clincher rims. And if you don't plan to ride hills and mostly flat roads, you can get a close ratio rear gear cluster/freewheel. It will save a little weight but also make your gears more useful through the range. You can also put the bike on a diet by removing components that you might not find neccessary, like the pant guard ring on the crankset, the chain disc guard at the rear wheel or reflectors (at your own risk if you do low light riding) A lighter setpost/saddle combination is also a good thing, plus lighter more modern pedals will just make the bike safer and nicer to ride with also more modern riding shoes. Any weight you can shed on the bike usually equals to better acceleration and an easier/faster bike to pedal up hills. I suspect that your bike might have Weinmanns. Not top of the line stuff, but quite reliable and good performers as long as they are adjusted and serviced correctly. Just consider maybe changing out the brake pads/holders to something more current as brake pad composition and performance had greatly improved since the 80's. You might save a few grams of weight doing so too. Not sure what rear deraiileur you have there, but most mid level Suntour or Shimano derailleur set will work great with the bike and certainly a bit better than the French brands of that time.

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Watch out for a Swiss bb. Nothing wrong with it, as long as it functions. But come replacement/upgrade time, you are starting with an obsolete bb. 1983 is right around the time some of the French makers were switching to Swiss threading. From there, they went with the british standard. So if you have the british standard, that would be great news as the upgrade options then are just about unlimited.

I would have that BB serviced now. Need to keep it going, fresh bearings, grease, and proper adjustment always help, and then you will know for sure whether it is french, swiss, or british.

+1 If that is a properly adjusted saddle for you, stop now. The bike is too big for you, no need to put money into a bike that is the wrong size.
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My 84 PSV was pretty much the last Peugeot road bike to have a Swiss threaded BB, so I agree that you might still discover that this one has it. Not fatal, if you need replacement cups (They should work with any typical French spindle and bearing sets) which are hard to find most of the time, there's a person selling them at eBay right now. Not really cheap but that comes with most things rare and different.

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Does anybody have a similar bike that they have fixed up??? if you could post some images that would be great
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