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    What the hell is this?

    1974 Raleigh International(??) Champagne Vintage Bicycle

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_773wt_1413


    ...and he is selling it "as is" with a "a money back guarantee"

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    That's a pretty nice hundred dollar bike.

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    Looks rusty International to me.

    I do wonder about these private auctions though, with the cloaked bidder identity, is it not redundant to hide the bidders? Unless one is going to have a shill drive up the bids...

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    Nice enough bike but not an international. Wrong lugs.
    I have spoken.

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    Looks like a Franken-Prix to me. Service fork, and some pretty nice upgrades.
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    Serial number would indicate 1981 vintage. Did Raleighs ever use Simplex and Mafac? My early 70s Competition used Huret shifters so maybe. "It measures 22" from seat post to stem" - this is handy to know.

    I agree that a hundred bucks would be a reasonably good deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmt13 View Post
    ..Did Raleighs ever use Simplex and Mafac? ...
    These bikes normally had Simplex DRs.
    The Seller lists " Brakes Front/Rear: Weinmann Center pulls MAFAC Racer" brakes. Likely he means the LEVERS are Weinmanns (probably original) and the calipers are Mafac (replaced).

    I don't trust the serial number given by the seller. (Too many digits after "NA" (Nottingham, January, xxxxxx) )
    I would guess it's really an early 70's GP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch521 View Post
    1974 Raleigh International(??) Champagne Vintage Bicycle

    ...and he is selling it "as is" with a "a money back guarantee"
    Fork is bent...
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    It's got the same lugs as my '79 Nottingham Super Grand Prix but mine doesn't have the wrap around seat stays.
    My name is Steve and I don't have a bent fork anymore :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin View Post
    Nice enough bike but not an international. Wrong lugs.
    You are correct. I should have not missed that. Super Course?

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    Quote Originally Posted by repechage View Post
    You are correct. I should have not missed that. Super Course?
    Not SC. Grand Prix

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    My two cents is that it is more likely a Grand Prix than it is an International. The paint color is similar to the Champagane used on the International. However, it does look more like someone took a Grand Prix and installed Mafac brakes and a Sugino Maxy cotterless crankset. Plus the replacement fork.

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    It is a Grand Prix with enough parts swapped to fool someone into believing...




    ...that it is a Super Grand Prix.

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    It is not an Raleigh International! The bicycle is most likely a Grand Prix or a Criterium, both of which featured the full wrap around seat stay. I doubt that it is a Super Course but I could be wrong about that.

    RaleighGP_FF53_FullSide.jpg RaleighCriteriumFF_63_FullSide.jpg

    RaleighGP_FF53_LugSeatTubeTQFront.jpg RaleighCriteriumFF_63_LugSeatTube.jpg
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    ...that it is a Super Grand Prix.
    I know that I have not seen all of the Raleighs made, but I have not seen a Super Grand Prix with the wrap around seat stay...

    RaleighSuperGPTQFront.jpg Raleigh_SuperGP_52_Full_Side_2.jpg

    Incidentally, there was nothing super about the Super Grand Prix, in my opinion.
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    That's a pretty nice hundred dollar bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
    I know that I have not seen all of the Raleighs made, but I have not seen a Super Grand Prix with the wrap around seat stay...
    Good point - though I wouldn't put it past Raleigh.

    -Kurt

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