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    Modern Classics

    What is the sickest looking and riding steel, classic looking, lugged bicycle that is being made today? Could be custom or mass produced, cheap or expensive, modern edge threadless + CF fork or die hard quill-stem classic.

    I'll start it off with the inevitable Colnago Master-X:


    And Cinelli Supercorsa:
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    Pegoretti comes to mind. Most of his bikes are unique pieces, but his site is worth a few visits.
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    Max if I wanted to do so where would I go to order that Cinelli? is Cinelli still building steel bikes? also is it just me or does something look odd about it?

    As for goodlooking modern steel bikes.... the newest steel bike I have actually ridden is my '09 Motobecane Fantom Uno so I can't speak of ride quality. as for styling and classicness I'll say most any steel bike in the shop from the humble tigged (or whatever) trek 520 to the stalwart Bianchi Volpe to the Dolomite or the sexxy peacock colored Colnagos. I just love the classic lines of steel bike. the smooth lifeless (or should I say souless?) cookie cutter carbon bikes are nice to look at but they all seem to be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
    Max if I wanted to do so where would I go to order that Cinelli? is Cinelli still building steel bikes? also is it just me or does something look odd about it?
    http://www.cinelli-usa.com/framesets/supercorsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
    Max if I wanted to do so where would I go to order that Cinelli? is Cinelli still building steel bikes? also is it just me or does something look odd about it?
    He doesn't have any in inventory at this time, Tom at GVH Bikes can certainly get one. In addition to the SC, Cinelli also has the Gazzetta and the XCR steel bikes although the XCR is tig welded.

    Here is a partial list of Italian modern steel,

    Ablocco
    Basso
    Bellesi
    Bianchi
    Carrera
    Casati
    Cinelli
    Ciocc
    Colnago
    DeRosa
    Guerciotti
    Masciaghi
    Masi
    Moser
    Olmo
    Pegoretti
    Scapin
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    Tommasini
    Torelli
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    Yeah, for an across-the-product-line classic vintage look, nobody beats Rivendell.

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    Sure to annoy someone, my Rivendell.

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    I used to feel bad about not being able to get my hands on a Vanilla.



    Not so much anymore, as I'll get around to one eventually.

    After riding a Kirk Terraplane two summers ago, I decided to start saving for one.



    I'll finally have the $$$ to place an order in the spring.

    ...and after NAHBS, another builder came on the radar for me.

    Chris Bishop.

    He had a silver touring bike that was my hands down favorite at the show, aside from a bike from Dave Kirk and a Signal.

    Chris Bishop though, just has a special flair.

    For example, I can't imagine a nicer looking track bike/Pista.



    So many other outstanding "classic" American builders like Chris Kvale, Curt Goodrich, Bruce Gordon, Roland Della Santa, Mike Zanconato, Martin Tweedy, etc.

    The list seemingly goes on forever.

    Modern classics?

    I don't know, I just dig 'em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fender1 View Post
    Sure to annoy someone, my Rivendell.

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    I don't know why, as that's a nice looking bike.

    Looks like a fine all-day rider.

    Bet she rides great.

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    I think my Waterford RS-22 falls into that category.

    Last edited by Scooper; 09-24-11 at 09:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper View Post
    I think my Waterford RS-22 falls into that category.

    Of course it does.

    What an attractive bicycle!

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    Scooper's Waterford defines that category IMO.

    I don't think the Cinelli or Colnago are classic at all and I honestly don't think either will be desired down the road. My reasons are:

    1. Neither bike is tearing it up on the market and I don't think teenagers are dreaming about them. Classics are the bikes teenagers see, can't afford and remember the rest of their lives.

    2. To me both of these bikes are stylish "retro" pieces aimed at the folks like us...guys who grew up in the 80s and dreamed of a Cinelli. They're really not much different than the re-release of Schwinn Krates - it's nostalgia, and nostalgia isn't classic to me.

    I think the trend is that if people want steel, they want hand made customs or they want workman like function (Surly)...these are just recreations of what people wanted 20 years ago. I'd rather have the bike I wanted 20 years ago personally...it's cheaper and real. If I want new high end steel, I'm going to get it from Waterford, Kirk, Serotta...etc. If I want an everyday steel bike, I'm getting a Jamis, Surly, etc.

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    You can still get a frameset, custom or "off the peg", from Bob Jackson, of course.

    http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/custom.php
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    Not steel but it is lugged. And on paper it's a very traditional build:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    Not steel but it is lugged. And on paper it's a very traditional build:

    ...and gorgeous!

    FWIW I couldn't care less if folks like Colnagos or not though.

    I rode the tires off an Extreme Power this summer, and it is far and away the nicest racing bike I've ever ridden.

    By far.

    Hardly classic styling, but entirely wicked in its own right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gomango View Post
    I don't know why, as that's a nice looking bike.

    Looks like a fine all-day rider.

    Bet she rides great.
    Rivendell just grates on a lots folks, in this section of the forum. The bike does ride great IMHO ( I am biased). I find it very comfortable and am trying to get myself enough miles in to really do it justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
    Scooper's Waterford defines that category IMO.

    I don't think the Cinelli or Colnago are classic at all and I honestly don't think either will be desired down the road. My reasons are:

    1. Neither bike is tearing it up on the market and I don't think teenagers are dreaming about them. Classics are the bikes teenagers see, can't afford and remember the rest of their lives.

    2. To me both of these bikes are stylish "retro" pieces aimed at the folks like us...guys who grew up in the 80s and dreamed of a Cinelli. They're really not much different than the re-release of Schwinn Krates - it's nostalgia, and nostalgia isn't classic to me.

    I think the trend is that if people want steel, they want hand made customs or they want workman like function (Surly)...these are just recreations of what people wanted 20 years ago. I'd rather have the bike I wanted 20 years ago personally...it's cheaper and real. If I want new high end steel, I'm going to get it from Waterford, Kirk, Serotta...etc. If I want an everyday steel bike, I'm getting a Jamis, Surly, etc.
    I can't say about Colnago, but I will stick my $0.02 about Cinelli. No, they don't have a huge market share in the US. But they are a pretty big hit with the hipsters. They are targeted with the RVCA, Mash and Gazzetta. Cinelli is a major sponsor of the CMWC and the ECMC. With this, Cinelli is targeting the early adopters, something that will give them the reputation as leaders and will keep their bikes desirable for some time.

    Also, Cinelli is one of the first companies to use stainless. And while the die-hards here insist upon lugged construction, in reality, lugs only offer a different aesthetic, it is not "better". Instead of being a slave to the past, Cinelli looks to current trends and brings steel bikes forward with their XCR, whick I personally would consider a modern classic.


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    That Colnago is sweet
    Good point about the XCR
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    Hetchins or Bob Jackson with Vibrant Stays tops my list but for the time being I'm enjoying a 2010 Raleigh Clubman ( Oh the horror!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by iab View Post
    I can't say about Colnago, but I will stick my $0.02 about Cinelli. No, they don't have a huge market share in the US. But they are a pretty big hit with the hipsters. They are targeted with the RVCA, Mash and Gazzetta. Cinelli is a major sponsor of the CMWC and the ECMC. With this, Cinelli is targeting the early adopters, something that will give them the reputation as leaders and will keep their bikes desirable for some time.

    Also, Cinelli is one of the first companies to use stainless. And while the die-hards here insist upon lugged construction, in reality, lugs only offer a different aesthetic, it is not "better". Instead of being a slave to the past, Cinelli looks to current trends and brings steel bikes forward with their XCR, whick I personally would consider a modern classic.

    IAB - I'm not talking about Cinelli's entire line, or Colango's. I'm talking about those two particular bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iab View Post
    He doesn't have any in inventory at this time, Tom at GVH Bikes can certainly get one.
    That's where I got mine.
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