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Old 09-24-11, 08:42 PM
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Fender Mounted Taillight Installation Question

I'm finally getting around to reinstalling the fenders on my UE-8 and am installing a different taillight on the fender because the lens on the original light was missing and the one I bought was the closest I could find at the time I bought it. The new light is a little longer and a little wider.

The original light had a gasket on the rear of the body whereas the replacement does not. Should I bother with sealing the light with a gasket of some sort? If so, what is the best thing to as a gasket replacement on the new light? I'm sort of at a loss other than using a piece of inner tube and I'm not sure that's going to work very well.

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Peugeot Taillights - 1 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr


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No need to seal. The older Soubitez taillights didn't have them. It looks like the replacement you have is a Cibie... do you know if that model ever came with a gasket?
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The Cibie (yes that's the replacement) arrived without any gasket/seal and I don't know if it had a seal/gasket to begin with. The original which appears to be a Soubitez, had the gasket/seal. As long as it didn't have a seal to start with, I suppose it doesn't matter whether it is sealed or not.
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Couple of tricks, you could lay a nice small round bead of silicone around the back outer edge of the tailight and allow to dry, then it becomes a gasket when you snug the light up. I will quite often seal the grommet where the wire comes through with a dab of silicone. Also make sure the light can drain if any water gets into it.

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Originally Posted by wahoonc
Couple of tricks, you could lay a nice small round bead of silicone around the back outer edge of the tailight and allow to dry, then it becomes a gasket when you snug the light up. I will quite often seal the grommet where the wire comes through with a dab of silicone. Also make sure the light can drain if any water gets into it.

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This is what I was thinking too. Also, I wonder if you'll experience some annoying metal-against-metal rattling if you don't seal it.
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Never notice it on my bikes...I am over half deaf and ride on gravel and rough roads, so rattles are a normal part of the ride.

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Originally Posted by wahoonc
Couple of tricks, you could lay a nice small round bead of silicone around the back outer edge of the tailight and allow to dry, then it becomes a gasket when you snug the light up. I will quite often seal the grommet where the wire comes through with a dab of silicone. Also make sure the light can drain if any water gets into it.

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I had thought about that, but wasn't sure whether it would be a good idea or not. Anyway, I just decided to put it on with anything sealing it. I think it'll be OK and if it rattles, it's easy enough to remedy later on.
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Originally Posted by AZORCH
This is what I was thinking too. Also, I wonder if you'll experience some annoying metal-against-metal rattling if you don't seal it.
Since I just attached it to the bike, it seems to be pretty tight. I'll be surprised if it rattles even without a gasket or bead of silicone.
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Originally Posted by wahoonc
Never notice it on my bikes...I am over half deaf and ride on gravel and rough roads, so rattles are a normal part of the ride.

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Sounds like the kind of riding I do. The C&O canal trail is pretty rough in spots, so I sort of expect rattles too.
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No rattling on my Soubitez Catalux 6:



Two mounting bolts, one at top and one at bottom, hold it nice and snug:

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Originally Posted by southpawboston
No rattling on my Soubitez Catalux 6:

Two mounting bolts, one at top and one at bottom, hold it nice and snug:
That looks great! Are those the zeppelin fenders?

Seems I remember you saying you had a source for those somewhere a while back. Do you care to share where you're getting them from? I'd love to get my hands on some of those, if possible.

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Originally Posted by photogravity
Since I just attached it to the bike, it seems to be pretty tight. I'll be surprised if it rattles even without a gasket or bead of silicone.
Originally Posted by wahoonc
Never notice it on my bikes...I am over half deaf and ride on gravel and rough roads, so rattles are a normal part of the ride.
The bike in the picture above is used almost exclusively for gravel/dirt roads and fire trails, and gets a lot of "abuse". In about 500 miles of dirt road and trail riding thus far, nary a rattle. The key is to use star washers or nylock nuts on all the fender and taillight mounting points. Otherwise, fasteners are likely to work their way loose.

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That looks great! Are those the zeppelin fenders?

Seems I remember you saying you had a source for those somewhere a while back. Do you care to share where you're getting them from? I'd love to get my hands on some of those, if possible.
Yep, Zeps. I wish I did have a source for those taillights! Unfortunately, ePay is my source. I found that one on ebay.fr and ended up winning it for a little less than they typically fetch on US eBay... which is to say, still more than anyone could have predicted these would fetch five years ago.
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