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Old 09-24-11, 11:16 PM   #1
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Campagnolo 9 speed and 8 speed DILEMMA

Ok so i have a dilemma. I have two wheelsets, both campy. The first pair has an 8 speed campy hub, the other pair has a 9 speed c record hub. I have intentions of building up a frame, originally i wanted an 8 speed early 90's campy chorus setup on this frame. But I recently got ahold of a really nice 9 speed wheelset that's campy and i would definitely rather use this wheelset.

The dilemma is that i wanted to run the chorus group or c-record 8 speed group with brifters mainly because i like how they look with just the campy logos and caligraphy on the derailleur and so on.

I have both campy brifters the 8 speed chorus and the 9 speed record titanium

I do not like the look of all the campagnolo record titanium parts, because it says RECORD and TITANIUM across the cranks and on the derailleur and whatnot. BUT the wheelset i want on this frame is the 9speed wheelset. I just think the campy 9 speed group is too modern for an 80's columbus frame. Personally i don't like the look.

Is there any way of fitting the 8 speed cassette onto the 9 speed c-record hub? I heard you can't do it, but i would like to confirm. If not i guess i'm running campy record titanium 9 speed on it
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Old 09-24-11, 11:26 PM   #2
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I pretty sure 8 and 9 are totally incompatible. I'm in a similar spot, except stuck with all 8-speed stuff and a desire to upgrade to more, but would have to replace everything.
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you can use individual cogs from a loose 9spd cassette with "conversion" spacers to run 8spd on a 9/10/11 hub.

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see the SHIFT-8
http://wheelsmfg.com/content/view/522/40/


i believe there is also a campagnolo produced kit for the same purpose but it may be harder to locate.

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you can use individual cogs from a loose 9spd cassette with "conversion" spacers to run 8spd on a 9/10/11 hub.

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see the SHIFT-8
http://wheelsmfg.com/content/view/522/40/


i believe there is also a campagnolo produced kit for the same purpose but it may be harder to locate.
anyone here have experience with these spacers?
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I've used the 9 to 8 speed conversion kit, but with C-record indexed downtube shifters. It worked fine for me.
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You could always upgrade the 8'sp shifter to 9-sp and use the 8-sp group as a 9sp group, use the 9-sp wheels. The insert may be all that's required.
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^^^ what robbie says. One Ergo index gear insert = done
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I am running 10s shimano wheels with my 8s Sachs New Success ergo group using the conversion spacers and a 9s Shimano cassette on my IF. Works very well and it handled the D2R2 without missing a shift.

I have the 8s conversion spacers from Campy but I am squirreling them away for a future project. However I think I'm at my max number of road bikes right now so PM if you're interested in them. They were more or less paid forward to me so I would trade but not sell them..

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Well I have an 8 speed cassette on one wheelset that i do not want to use and a 9 speed cassette on the other wheelset I want to use, I was wondering if I would have any issues by putting the 8 speed cassette onto the 9 speed hub.

I'm kinda confused, so the spacer kit you guys are talking about will have the 8 speed cassette fit onto the 9 speed hub better? I believe the hub is longer for the cassete on the 9 speed hub?

Can someone just explain it fully through?
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Well I have an 8 speed cassette on one wheelset that i do not want to use and a 9 speed cassette on the other wheelset I want to use, I was wondering if I would have any issues by putting the 8 speed cassette onto the 9 speed hub.

I'm kinda confused, so the spacer kit you guys are talking about will have the 8 speed cassette fit onto the 9 speed hub better? I believe the hub is longer for the cassete on the 9 speed hub?


Can someone just explain it fully through?
8s Campagnolo cassette WILL NOT work on your 9s Campagnolo hub, splines are different.

What you need to do in order to run 8s on a 9s hub, is to use a 9s cassette, leaving one cog off and use 8s spacers between the remaining cogs.
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Oh ok, that makes sense now! thanks pm will be sent.
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