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    1960s Torpado: Help With Model and Serial Number

    This bike is equipped with:

    • Stronglight 49D
    • Campagnolo Record RD
    • Campagnolo Record FD
    • Campagnolo hubs
    • Stronglight (?) headset
    • Campagnolo dropouts
    • Weinmann brakes (definitely older than Weinmanns I've seen)
    • Weinmann levers
    • Unoriginal MAVIC clinchers


    Anyone have any idea of the year or model? I know very little of old Italian bikes.

















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    And a head tube size that suggests that it might just be big enough for you, Justin . Looks to be about a 61?
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpawboston View Post
    And a head tube size that suggests that it might just be big enough for you, Justin . Looks to be about a 61?
    Wouldn't that be cool?

    Nah, it's a 58-59 ("58" is stamped on the BB shell). I just love it and wanted to know more about it. It's at my LBS.
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    looks like a wannabe frejus.
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    I will fight you, man!











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    im seein' double over here....
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    Very, very similar.

    The Frejus' paint is in better shape. I think the Torpado is fully chromed.
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    What is the date on the bike license? I think the braze-on cable guides at the BB would put it in the early 70's, not 60's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    What is the date on the bike license? I think the braze-on cable guides at the BB would put it in the early 70's, not 60's.
    I don't recall the date on the bike license. I'll ask tomorrow.

    I thought that was a later feature as well. But with the Record derailleurs and 49d crank I thought it may have been older. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
    I don't recall the date on the bike license. I'll ask tomorrow.

    I thought that was a later feature as well. But with the Record derailleurs and 49d crank I thought it may have been older. Thanks.
    The steel Record rear ders with plastic jockey wheels were used on mid and low lower level bikes into the early 70's. Could be late 60's though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    What is the date on the bike license?
    1981
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    columbus sticker is in french, says the 3 maintubes are double-butted

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