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    Chicago Built Le Tour?

    Hi Folks,

    Is this a Chicao-built Le Tour? The number on the left rear dropout is SJ085178, which according to Schwinn Bulletin 23, indicates the frame is from September 1980:

    "Le Tour (and Super Le Tour) numbers (1978-80 and 1982 on) include the letter "S" with a production month letter followed by a series of numbers, the first one telling the year of production (8=1978, 0=1980). Example: SC94653 = March, 1979."

    It was reported on this list the letter “I” was not used, so J = September.

    Earlier posts on the topic indicate Le Tours were built in Chicago in 1979 and 1980.

    So far, so good, but the number on the head tube badge is 0892, which indicates assembly was on the 89th day of 1982. This doesn’t match up well with the October 1980 date on the frame, so what happened? Could it be the frame was built in 1980, but the final assembly wasn’t until 1982? As I understand it, the Chicago factory closed in 1982 (1983?), so could the final assembly have taken place in Chicago?

    There’s no country of origin decal on the frame, but the finish is worn.

    I realize there’s no collector market for these bikes, but as a Chicago native, I’d be interested in restoring this bike or passing it on to someone who’s interested if I can be reasonably sure the frame was built and/or the final assembly done in Chicago.

    Lots of photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/4936361...7627786278967/

    Thanks for your help!

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    Unless the head badge is a replacement, I would bet on that date code first. Now you never know, Schwinn may have had the frame sitting around for a while before they did final construction.

    Google Schwinn Chicago factory, exact closure date is there.

    Check your bike specs versus the 1982 and 1980 catalog pages:

    http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1...0/1982_11.html

    http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1...0/1980_06.html

    Note, September 1980 frame puts it likely into the 1981 category as a minimum, and makes the 1982 headbadge pretty believable.

    1982 had Shimano Altus derailleurs, 1980 had Shimano 400 derailleurs.
    Last edited by wrk101; 10-17-11 at 10:25 AM.

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    Re: the frame vs. bike dating, I know with the '70s Chicago built fillet-brazed models it was common for Schwinn to build frames sometimes up to several years in advance of the actual bikes, so I don't see why that couldn't also be true for the Chicago-built "torch brazed" models like the '79-'82 Le Tours.
    Last edited by Metacortex; 10-17-11 at 11:51 AM.

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    More than likely Chicago assembled, as Le Tour production went to the Greenville Mississippi plant, not overseas.

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    Well you are correct 79-80 are chicago schwinns, for le tours anyways odds are it is probably an 80 but your best bet would be dating the components and seeing if the originals match up datewise.
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    The bike has Shimano Altus derailleurs, which is consistent with the 1982 assembly date on the head badge. The Wikipedia article on Schwinn states there was a 13 week strike at the Chicago factory starting in September 1980, so maybe this contributed to the frame sitting around for an extended period of time until final assembly.

    Thanks to everyone for your thoughts on this.

    Marty

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    What size is the frame?

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    It's a 23 inch frame, 22 3/8" c-c top tube

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