Campagnolo thin cup marked with "T" in a triangle
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Campagnolo thin cup marked with "T" in a triangle
I've been meaning to bring these up: A pair of Italian-thread fixed thin cups from my stable of Campagnolo parts. One has a "T" in a triangle stamped along with the other markings. The other does not have this marking, and has noticeably fewer threads.
I've run a few searches to see if the "T" can be identified, with no luck. Anyone know?
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I've run a few searches to see if the "T" can be identified, with no luck. Anyone know?
Take care,
-Kurt
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Because it goes in TOO deep?
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BTW- I'm wondering 'bout the triangle T - got a few of them here, too.
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It may be like the Z marking that appears on some spindles. Means nothing at all.
Does anyone have French or British cups with that marking? I have an Italian adjustable cup marked that way. My example is an NR...rifled cups
Does anyone have French or British cups with that marking? I have an Italian adjustable cup marked that way. My example is an NR...rifled cups
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I have no idea. T for Tullio? Probably not.
Hoping not to derail this thread too much, but I am curious about the cups posted above by TheOtherGuy. Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what's the purpose of the threads on the inside of the cups below the races?
Hoping not to derail this thread too much, but I am curious about the cups posted above by TheOtherGuy. Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what's the purpose of the threads on the inside of the cups below the races?
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Are you referring to where the spindle passes through the cup? If so, that is rifling. It's purpose is to guide dirt and grit away from the inside of the cup.
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^Yes, in that case, I was referring to the rifling. Thanks for the explanation.
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I've always thought "rifling" was kind of an odd name for those grooves. Just checked my NR French thin and thick cup sets. No "T".
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Here you go.
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Later Record/C-Record are alumium with steel races as well.
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I'm still not buying into the 'T' is for 'Triomphe' as thats way too easy based on Campy's track record for marking parts. And form that one could imply that Record cups would have an 'R' and Victory cups woulld have a 'V'. I did check and thay all have different part numbers.
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I'm still not buying into the 'T' is for 'Triomphe' as thats way too easy based on Campy's track record for marking parts. And form that one could imply that Record cups would have an 'R' and Victory cups woulld have a 'V'. I did check and thay all have different part numbers.
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Thin in Italian:
Maybe it has something to do with width?
a thin slice- una fettina sottile
a thin soup- una minestra liquida
wafer-thin- sottilissimo
narrow-gauge (Rail)- a scartamento ridotto
widthwise- trasversalmente
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No....my example is an NR cup, which is not used for a triple. Only the thin "Record" cup is used for a triple. I am not saying one could not make one work, but according to my info the pista and triple cups were "Record".
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Near as I can figure it then, we've been able to deduce the following:
-Kurt
- The "T" marked cup is Part #7131077.
- It is completely possible to find Chorus and Triomphe equipped with this cup, given that the part number was shared.
- The "T" does not stand for "thin cup." It doesn't translate into Italian, and it doesn't explain how you would mark a "thick cup" if it was in English.
- It does not mean a triple cup; the part number is for a road double.
- There is less threading on the non-"T" marked cup.
-Kurt