Classic Tan wall Tire is back
11-12-11, 08:48 PM
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Classic Tan wall Tire is back
Hey Guys,
The Continental Grand Prix Classic Tire 700x25, is back. Looks really nice, good price too! I'll ordering a set on Monday.
https://www.conti-online.com/generato...lassic_en.html
The Continental Grand Prix Classic Tire 700x25, is back. Looks really nice, good price too! I'll ordering a set on Monday.
https://www.conti-online.com/generato...lassic_en.html
11-12-11, 08:57 PM
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Glad to see its comeback, but I'm still on the fence as to whether Continental's sidewall should be deemed a tan or skinwall under any circumstances. It's a brownwall, plain and simple.
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I prefer blackwalls to gumwalls.
11-12-11, 09:33 PM
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Most people must, since there are so many to choose from.
11-13-11, 12:39 AM
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Hmm, the black chili compound is good stuff. Pretty high TPI. Looks like a no brainer to me, these are going on several bikes.
11-13-11, 01:53 AM
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Not so sure about the TPI. Continental's specifications say "3 plies / total 180 tpi". Turns out that means each ply is only 60 nylon threads per inch, which is pretty coarse compared to some tires that are available with 320 cotton threads per individual ply. Could still be a good looking or good performing tire, but the TPI is quite a bit lower than it sounds.
11-13-11, 02:23 AM
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Not so sure about the TPI. Continental's specifications say "3 plies / total 180 tpi". Turns out that means each ply is only 60 nylon threads per inch, which is pretty coarse compared to some tires that are available with 320 cotton threads per individual ply. Could still be a good looking or good performing tire, but the TPI is quite a bit lower than it sounds.
11-13-11, 07:41 AM
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I'm not -- there's no way that's a tan wall. And available all the way up to 25 mm width -- not gonna be on any of my bikes! Continental's marketing says you either want a 25 mm tire weighing 200 g, or a 32-35 weighing over 600.
11-13-11, 08:49 AM
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I'm in the market for such a tire, but I think the Grand Bois Cerf is at the top of my list.
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The color on the Continental website looks brown/maroon.
Kind of like their Euro Gatorskins.
There are already many choices in tan/gumwall tires in the United States though.
Vittoria's
Veloflex's
Challenge's
and a host of others.
...and Casey, Vittoria and Veloflex make a very nice tubular gumwall/skinwall.
Velomine has the Vittoria for $84. https://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1557
Veloflex has theirs for $95. https://www.veloflextires.com/velofle...um_tubular.htm
BTW I like all of the tires I listed above better than Continental's 4000s. Especially in the wet.
Kind of like their Euro Gatorskins.
There are already many choices in tan/gumwall tires in the United States though.
Vittoria's
Veloflex's
Challenge's
and a host of others.
...and Casey, Vittoria and Veloflex make a very nice tubular gumwall/skinwall.
Velomine has the Vittoria for $84. https://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1557
Veloflex has theirs for $95. https://www.veloflextires.com/velofle...um_tubular.htm
BTW I like all of the tires I listed above better than Continental's 4000s. Especially in the wet.
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Exactly (and I just rephrased the original post so my point is better understood). I don't mind "redwall" or "brownwall," but it drives me nuts to see them referred to as tan.
Doing so makes no more sense than calling a gumwall a skinwall - which it isn't.
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Doing so makes no more sense than calling a gumwall a skinwall - which it isn't.
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Michelin Never stopped offering a Gum/tan wall. I have World Tours on one bike (availble in 27) and a set of Erilium 2's I bought for a bike and then sold the bike before they were mounted.
11-13-11, 10:01 AM
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The state plainly they're brownwalls:
It is not only optically that the new Grand Prix in the classic design upgrades any Youngtimer and Retro-Racer. Its innermost values are also something to show for.
After all, the Newcomer with its brown side and the original Conti Sport-Profil from 1982 is based on the current Grand Prix. Thanks to PolyX-Breaker, highly stable and fine 180 tpi nylon carcass and the legendary Black Chili Compound it presents itself technically as a state-of-the-art racing tyre.
After all, the Newcomer with its brown side and the original Conti Sport-Profil from 1982 is based on the current Grand Prix. Thanks to PolyX-Breaker, highly stable and fine 180 tpi nylon carcass and the legendary Black Chili Compound it presents itself technically as a state-of-the-art racing tyre.
11-13-11, 10:05 AM
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...and Casey, Vittoria and Veloflex make a very nice tubular gumwall/skinwall.
Velomine has the Vittoria for $84. https://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1557
Veloflex has theirs for $95. https://www.veloflextires.com/velofle...um_tubular.htm
BTW I like all of the tires I listed above better than Continental's 4000s. Especially in the wet.
Velomine has the Vittoria for $84. https://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1557
Veloflex has theirs for $95. https://www.veloflextires.com/velofle...um_tubular.htm
BTW I like all of the tires I listed above better than Continental's 4000s. Especially in the wet.
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Once you ride them for any real distance, they all look grubby.
...and Veloflex, Vittoria, and Challenge use a wide range of descriptors to market their products.
They use any "jargon" they choose to sell a tire.
Again, the point is it isn't very difficult to find a nice "classic" appearing high quality tire.
The "Classic" listed by the op is the least classic of designs I've seen on the market.
11-13-11, 10:25 AM
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The problem with skinwalls or any favorable looking sidewall colored tires is they look like crap after you ride in the rain, they get all stained from brake pad residue and the inevadible chainlube splattering everywhere when your chain slaps around through shifting or riding on any rougher roads, doesnt matter how much you wipe down your chain after lubing it happens. That dark brown tan wall looks hideous IMO. Also hate conti tires, every one Ive come across too hard to get on the rims, if I had a problem with blowing tires off the rim I would like them, if its not broken don't fix it.
11-13-11, 12:23 PM
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They should call that "Cola" colored sidewalls on those Continentals. I too see dark brown instead of tan. Either way, it's too dark for me.
Still can't get to like dark or black sidewalls. It's just stuck in my head that "cheap" tires back in the 80's were all black. so aesthetically, they look cheap cheap cheap...blahhh to me.
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Still can't get to like dark or black sidewalls. It's just stuck in my head that "cheap" tires back in the 80's were all black. so aesthetically, they look cheap cheap cheap...blahhh to me.
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11-13-11, 12:37 PM
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On the right bike brown walls are simply awesome. For everything else, Panaracer makes the perfect tire still in my mind. I may actually get to see these in person, if my boss gets off the 23c Gatorskins only kick. Not everyone wants 23's. I prefer 25's and 28's if I can fit them on a bike. They make the miles go so much smoother
. All black tires equal "replacement quality junk" to me. It will always be that way, so it will be a shame when they disappear forever.,,,,BD
Older Conti Grand Prix's I got for free.
. All black tires equal "replacement quality junk" to me. It will always be that way, so it will be a shame when they disappear forever.,,,,BDOlder Conti Grand Prix's I got for free.
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