Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 6 of 6
  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    30
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Schwinn mystery bike 1960

    I picked up a bike recently and I am having a difficult time trying to determine the model. It is definitely a Schwinn. Serial #J0 14534 which puts it at Sep of 1960. The bike has been repainted dark green over an original blue and has poorly applied decals indicating it as a Fair Lady.

    Here's a link to the 1960 Schwinn catalog.

    http://www.schwinncruisers.com/schwi...icycle-models/

    The frame is the same ladies type for all of the following models; Fair Lady, Co-Ed, Starlet, Debutante, Hollywood, Spitfire and Tornado (non-tank versions). There are two key differences between the first 5 and the last two. One is that the far left end of the chain guard on the first 5 comes to a non-90 degree angle and extends past the right seat stay and on the last two, the left end of the chain guard is a 90 degree angle and does not extend past the right seat stay. Also, on the first 5, the top of the fork has a chrome cover that fits over the top with points coming down the sides of the fork (about 1 1/4"). This piece is removable. The last two do not have this chrome piece. You can see all of this in the catalog pictures.

    Here's the mystery. Everyone of the 7 bikes was available in blue, so no help there. However, the chain guard on this bike is of the variety seen on the Spitfire or the Tornado BUT the fork has the chrome piece which was only found on the first 5. One other clue that makes me lean towards the latter 2 is that it has the original black wall tires while the first 5 models appear to have all come with white walls.

    But how to explain then the chrome piece on the fork?

    I would like to restore this but want to get the model right for decal puposes.

    Any assistance is appreciated.

  2. #2
    The Improbable Bulk Little Darwin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Wilkes-Barre, PA
    My Bikes
    Many
    Posts
    7,491
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Have you checked the 1961 catalog? With a September date for the frame build, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a '61 model.
    Slow Ride Cyclists of NEPA

    People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character.
    - Ralph Waldo Emerson

  3. #3
    PanGalacticGargleBlaster Zaphod Beeblebrox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Smugglers Notch, Vermont
    My Bikes
    Upright and Recumbent....too many to list, mostly Vintage.
    Posts
    7,488
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    pics are worth at least as many words as are in the initial post.
    --Don't Panic.

  4. #4
    Ride, Wrench, Swap, Race dddd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    Cheltenham-Pederson racer, Boulder F/S Paris-Roubaix, Varsity racer, '52 Christophe, '62 Continental, '92 Merckx, '75 Limongi, '76 Presto, '72 Gitane SC, '71 Schwinn SS, etc.
    Posts
    3,500
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Do not expect a Schwinn bike from the early '60's to have exact parts spec in agreement with the catalogs.

    I've found certified un-molested bikes from that era which deviate in parts spec between models and model years as shown in the catalogs.
    The catalogs were written at a certain time of year, but the details of the bicycle's construction clearly was not perfectly synchronized with the release date of the catalogs. Parts inventory often dictated changes months before or after (usually before) the catalog date as indicated by serial number.
    My 1962 Continenatal, dated Aug '62, has features of the subsequent catalog model year, as well as of the SuperContinental model.
    They just weren't so fussy about it being to catalog spec in those days, and most catalogs announce that all specifications are subject to change. I've seen 1963 catalogs from Peugeot that had component details rubber-stamped over, but I don't think Schwinn bothered with that. Maybe it was just the distributor who re-stamped those Peugeot catalogs, heck it was almost surely the distributor who translated and printed them in the first place.
    Last edited by dddd; 11-15-11 at 04:16 PM.

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    30
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes...except for the addition of an 8th model using that frame (Flying Star...with a tank), nothing changed form the 1960 catalog (including the colors). I guess one explanation is that either the fork or the chain guard was replaced at some point and the correct match for the model type was not paid particular attention.

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    30
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here's a pic...note the seat is also not the classic two-tone (which was just released the year before I believe), so that is obviously a replacement at some point (but the fact that the hand grips are also black is interesting???). They also lost the original head badge which was the larger type (3 1/4" between screw holes) and slapped on the later shorter version (just attaching the top screw).

    Picture4 020.jpg

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •