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Old 11-16-11, 03:12 PM   #1
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Modern Production 650B low-trail bikes:

It's tough to find those 650B equipped, low-trail bicycles that people like to use for randonneuring.

The Kogswell P/R has been discontinued.

Velo-Orange has their Randonneur.

Outside of that, does anyone know of any affordable, non-custom 650 bees?

(Of course, there is also a whole series of old 80's Treks that fit the bill, too:

1976 TX300/500/700
1977 TX200/300/500/700
1978 510/710/910
1979 510/710/910
1980 412/414/510/710/910
1981 412/610
1982 311/410/412/610/613/614
1983 400/500/520/600/620/630/640
1984 400/420)

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Old 11-16-11, 03:28 PM   #2
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Affordable is relative. The two least expensive 650B production frames I know of are:

Rawland rSogn
Boulder All-Road
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Old 11-16-11, 03:36 PM   #3
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The Rawland starts at size M.

I'd also like to put it at $1400 the Box Dog Bikes Pelican.



And the Velo-Orange Polyvalent at $550.

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What's any of this got to do with riding Brevets?
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What does your question have to do with available bikes in 650b?
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You asked in your initial post for bikes people use for Randonneuring so I ask you Why something like a V-O polyvalent, especially outfitted with a big honkin porteur rack is appropriate for Brevet riding?


seems to me you're more interested in buzz words than Brevets.
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Velo-Orange has their Randonneur.
Which is made for 622x28 tires.

And none of those Treks were made for 650B wheels. Your post is confusing.
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Screw this. I forgot why I quit bikeforums.

Snarky criticism is tossed about like monkeys fling ****, when all I wanted were some helpful resources and a knowledge base.

I'm outta here for a long time, again.


Thanks for nothing. This is just the help I wanted after having my bike stolen.
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You've got a helpful resource and a knowledge base. You just ask really stupid questions.

Go back to fleecing members for parts, you were better at that than you are at trying to sound smart.

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Old 11-16-11, 05:09 PM   #10
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You mean his mom spent the money he was going use for shipping your part also. LOL....
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If these had rack mounts I'd be tempted to run one with a rigid fork on a randonee. Dragon 650 - $900



Heck, even without the rackmounts I'd still be tempted. I love rigid MTBs on long rides.
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aw, that egg salad isn't sitting to well...
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I think the problem is the face you're making in your photo. Just a guess.
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This is a very awkward thread.
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I'm almost sad I missed what I imagine was some previous banjo drama...
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Here is a banjo thread from happier times.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...cle?highlight=
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re: the topic.

imo, save the 650b for conversions. fatties fit fine on lots of newer 700c frames.
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Let's see...comes back to bf after a long absence, has had a bike "stolen".......How many more replies until the inevitable request for "free" parts for the new "Banjo 650b project". Please help. Your charity is greatly appreciated. What a goof.
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Let's see...comes back to bf after a long absence, has had a bike "stolen".......How many more replies until the inevitable request for "free" parts for the new "Banjo 650b project". Please help. Your charity is greatly appreciated. What a goof.
I contributed to a hogpile.

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This is a very awkward thread.
Things came to a head so quickly, I'm left wondering whether Zaphod was acting deliberately or just being disagreeable.

Heck, the Polyvalent page at VO mentions the B-word, and I personally don't know any better on the subject, so it doesn't surprise me if anyone else got it wrong.
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Banjo, whom I always regarded as a nice kid, must have stirred the pot somewhere behind the scenes.

Too bad it didn't remain back there.
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His shipping was slow, but I did get some nice NR parts from him.
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Would the Rivendell 650B bikes be considered affordable?
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Dang, I can't even afford that $900 Jamis 650 frame. Rivendell Bombadil is on my dream bike list, however.
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Dang, I can't even afford that $900 Jamis 650 frame. Rivendell Bombadil is on my dream bike list, however.
If this is your size, you're golden: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kogswell-650...#ht_548wt_1398

Just need to contract a builder to make a fork for you. This Terraferma fork is available for $250 + shipping. Looks like the steerer is long enough at 240mm. 1" threadless, so you'd need a headset that works with 1 1/8" head tube and 1" steerer.
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