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Old 11-18-11, 02:37 PM   #1
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Campagnolo Record Off Road (O.R.) derailleurs

Anybody have much experience with these?

I have acquired a very nice Campy Record OR front derailleur, but have never used one before. I've been collecting bits and bobs to build a frame that's been stuck in the U.K. (in theory, it's being refinished). It's some 8+ months overdue, but that's another story.

In my build plan for the drive train, I'll be running an old school Campy SR crank that's been tripleized by Elliot Bay Cycles in Seattle to 50/41/28. My current options for a front derailleur are either a Mavic 860 FD or this sweet new Record O.R. Obviously, the OR derailleur was originally for a mountain bike, but my triple will have a large drop from 41 to 28, given the 144bcd limits of the original crank arm for outer rings. So, it'll be a C&V road bike geared for old legs and big hills.

Anyone with experience with the Record OR front or the Mavic 860, for that matter care to offer their insights as to performance on a wide triple front, please?

FWIW: The rear will be a NOS 3rd generation Campagnolo Rally.

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Old 11-18-11, 06:06 PM   #2
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ive got a OR rear derailleur on my shelf but that is the extent of my experience. i am subscribing for pics
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Old 11-18-11, 08:04 PM   #3
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OP: someone with "Leica" in his/her name should know WE NEED PICS.
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Old 11-18-11, 09:13 PM   #4
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Yeeesh, guys. It's not like we don't have VeloBase.

http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...6e5d0&Enum=113


As for my cameras, I have 4 bodies and 15 lenses. But..., these are film-based rangefinder cameras. Macro work was never a strong suit. More to the point, my trusty Canon G9, which I've used for all my macro shots of bits and bobs, just died on me. Utterly dropped dead. Very sad day. I love that camera. Sigh.

Okay. Borrow the daughter's P&S. Since you all seem to not know what it is I'm asking about :



So, the question was/is: Has anyone used this on a touring-type drive train?

The Mavic is buried in my build box. I'll have to dig to find it.

On VeloBase: http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...=113&AbsPos=23

Good enough? Please? Now, any thoughts?

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Old 11-19-11, 10:31 AM   #5
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Alright. I'm still hoping to hear of the experience of others with either of these FDs.

The reputation of the Mavic is good. I've heard very little of the Campy OR. The build is going to be "idiosyncratic", so I'm really only concerned with function – and a bit of cool factor, rooted in obscure. Like the bike it'll be going onto.

So, this is them.



Advise, anecdotal stories, whatever. All welcome.

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I don't know of, have not ridden and have not seen either one of those units... and really don't know a whole lot about derailleurs....

However, in looking at the Campagnolo one, it seems to have a lower inner plate- looking like it has the ability to pick the chain up from a smaller cog to a much larger cog. (as in your 41-28)

I'm riding a half-step & a granny going from 45-28 and I'm using a Sachs/Huret Pilot- it's cool, aesthetically pleasing, yet obscure and supremely functional.

That also seems to have that much lower inner plate:

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I had a Huret on my first Ritchey that did great service. That Pilot looks to be a direct descendant of it. Good looker, to boot.

But, what I have in front of me are the Mavic and the Campy OR. As they are both NOS, I don't really want to "try them both", as the one I don't use will probably be sold to cover other expenses.

Thus, I'm hunting advice from any who have used either of these before.

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I've got one of these installed on my Colnago Dream cyclocross bike...but haven't done the boring stuff like run cables to it yet or install a chain.

Mine is a top pull...this is one of the few (only?) Campy front derailleurs that are top pull (cabling on the cross bike runs along the top tube).
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There were, in fact, three versions of this Campy Off Road FD. One with an adjustable clamp size, one standard 28.6, and one top-pull version.

What size chain rings will you be using in your setup?

I've been told the Record OR will have a hard time with a 50-52T outer. Apparently, it was designed around a 44T (or so) big ring so the cage has a tighter radius to it.

I'd really like to hear if anyone has used this with larger rings, and if it posed any problems.

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There were, in fact, three versions of this Campy Off Road FD. One with an adjustable clamp size, one standard 28.6, and one top-pull version.

What size chain rings will you be using in your setup?

I've been told the Record OR will have a hard time with a 50-52T outer. Apparently, it was designed around a 44T (or so) big ring so the cage has a tighter radius to it.
Mine is the top pull version, and IIRC, it has the adjustable clamp. I will be running the typical cross 36/46 front chainrings.

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