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Old 11-18-11, 03:14 PM   #1
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Just blew a sale

Or maybe I wasn't very nice.

Saw a listing for an overpriced gas-pipe bike that someone had some barcons on at one point. I called and asked him if we was interested in parting out the shifters and possibly the crankset. He seemed to be contemplating it then asked me how I thought he would sell the rest of the bike with the missing parts. I suggested he could repost it in the Boat section.
Yeah, that didn't go over too well... it gets boring being nice all of the time.
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Old 11-18-11, 03:28 PM   #2
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Ain't a bit nice, but I love it!
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You have to mix it up every once in a while

Funny, last week somebody posted a gas pipe bike upgraded with bar cons on CL for $150. I asked it he would just sell the shifters. His response was "I'll sell you the whole bike for $30".
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Or maybe I wasn't very nice.

Saw a listing for an overpriced gas-pipe bike that someone had some barcons on at one point. I called and asked him if we was interested in parting out the shifters and possibly the crankset. He seemed to be contemplating it then asked me how I thought he would sell the rest of the bike with the missing parts.
Hah. Just tell him it has as much chance selling for his asking price with or without the parts---nil.

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Easy, it's all about venue. Dreamland CL.
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Speaking of Dreamland CL:

Last week a woman on VT-CL posted this: "1960 Schwinn, $200." The description was the same with no pictures.

I emailed 3 times before she responded and finally sent me a picture of a 1982-83 Sidewinder, which is an EF Continental/Varsity/Collegiate with an MTB fork and 26" knobby tires. I politely told her the correct date and sent links to catalog pages and coached her on how to look for the date stamp, and serial number and which letters to look for to confirm the 22 year newer date.

Since it looked to be in average to below average shape, in need of lots of service and TLC, I politely asked if she would consider $50-75, depending on what I saw after driving some 1.5-2 hours each way to see the bike.

She declined, told me the bike was worth that much and more, that it had to be older than 1982 since she had owned it for 15 years, and everything worked (even though the tires were flat and the chain looked a bit rusty in the picture). I responded back, "best of luck on your sale."

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Yesterday this shows up on VT-CL; "Schwinn Mountain Cruiser- $750"
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Mechanics have oohed and ahhed over its golden rims and brake cables.
The derailer has been replaced. It's in good working condition but defnitely not perfect.
It's the same bike and now the price is inflated almost by a factor of 4! At least the date has come a bit closer.

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Old 11-19-11, 11:08 AM   #7
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You gotta admit - those are some pretty ahh-worthy brake cables..err...housings..or something.....
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Old 11-19-11, 11:15 AM   #8
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Golden rims and brake cables? Melted down, they are worth more than $750!
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Old 11-19-11, 11:32 AM   #9
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It's now being offered by the...Winooski Bicycle shop, Winoosky VT!

They must have bought it from that lady and see a whole lot more in it than any of the rest of us do.
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Old 11-19-11, 02:34 PM   #11
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Old 11-19-11, 03:21 PM   #12
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It's now being offered by the...Winooski Bicycle shop, Winoosky VT!

They must have bought it from that lady and see a whole lot more in it than any of the rest of us do.
Does this mean she tricked the shop guys into thinking it was worth it?
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Maybe one of the employees thought it was a King Sting.
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Now it's down to $525!
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The Mtn Cruiser is down to $225.

http://burlington.craigslist.org/bik/2709609093.html
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It's the same bike and now the price is inflated almost by a factor of 4! At least the date has come a bit closer.
Offer to sell her some "King Sting" decals for it

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The only time I've had an emotional reaction to a brake cable was this one time when it broke...
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She needs a better picture...
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It could have been a joke by the bike shop. At least, I hope so.

I don't know if you all consider the Schwinn EF models to be "gaspipe", but in the Detroit CL, the asking price for Varsitys, Continentals and Collegiates is anywhere from $50 to $150, and this is a depressed market. Although, obviously, asking price is not necessarily selling price.
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Possibly related. I posted this to Trollheim, but for those who don't have Trollheim access:

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CENTURION SIGNET 10 SP-60cm/24inch-Tall Bicycle/High End-Ex Condition - $225
CENTURION SIGNET 10 SPEED - 60cm/24inch-Tall Person Bicycle/High End in Excellent Pristene Condition (see pictures-then come see the bike) - Only ridden about 5 times for short distances since the day it was purchased new at the store! This bike spent it's entire life hanging on a bike rack inside a garage. This bike is beautiful and made of Tange's high-end Champion #1 or #2 tubing, a double-butted, seamless chromium-molybdenum (CrMo) steel alloy, which is of the same caliber as the Columbus SLX/SP (CrMo) and Reynolds 531 (manganese-molybdenum) tubesets. You must see this bike to appreciate it's excellence. Completely high end bike from the 80's in about as perfect of original condition as could be found with a bike from this time period. You will not find a better price on a bike of this quality anywhere in this pristene condition. Asking $225




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Signet is the bottom of the barrel in the Centurion line. The tubing is NOT comparable to Columbus or Reynolds high end stuff; that is a misrepresentation on your part. You would never see high end tubing on a bike with suicide levers and stem shifters.. Youíve posted it a few times now. The reason you havenít sold it yet is that it is overpriced by about a factor of two. Should be $100-150.
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you know nothing of the 1983+ as it is exactly as stated, see link... http://sheldonbrown.com/centurion/index.html I usually wouldn't waste my time answerring ******* but I enjoy laughing at dummies like you. The reason I never sold it is I was on vacation for 2 of the 3 weeks it's been on here. Finish the heroin needle in your arm, it is obvious you are on some very heavy drugs. I have been offered $225 17 times and $200 84 times. I enjoy riding one of the best bikes ever made now, so I may raise the price. Your wife also says my dick is way longer and fatter than yours when she tries to put it in her mouth.
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Wow. Well, since you want to quote Sheldon Brown, ďSIGNET (1987): Apparently, a bottom of the line model with hi-tensile frame and Shimano Skylark derailers.Ē I donít have to insult you to make my point. The facts bear me out.
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Its not 1987 dummy, get off the drugs. By your age you should have known that tripping on acid is for morons and total idiots... like you
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Yeah, I think it is. Those graphics are more modern looking than in the 1984 catalog (http://sheldonbrown.com/centurion1984/index.html), so itís newer than that. Also, if you notice, the low end bikes all have stem shifters. The LeMans and up have downtube shifters. The Elite and up get rid of the suicide levers on the brakes. Your bike has both, indicating lower quality. Your Signet also has a bolt-on derailleur hanger; all the high-end bikes have integral hangers. Finally, you donít know whether itís Champion 1 or Champion 2 tubing. Is that because there is no decal? If there is no decal, itís because there is nothing to brag aboutÖ in other words, high tensile steel, the bottom of the barrel.

You might find a sucker to give you $225 for that bike, but if you do itíll be someone who knows even less about bikes than you do.
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Possibly related. I posted this to Trollheim, but for those who don't have Trollheim access:

My email exchange with the seller:
Hah, that's hilarious and some darn good reading.
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I thought about posting the whole exchange to CL under "RE: CENTURION SIGNET 10 SP-60cm/24inch-Tall Bicycle/High End-Ex Condition - $225" but.... nah.
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I thought about posting the whole exchange to CL under "RE: CENTURION SIGNET 10 SP-60cm/24inch-Tall Bicycle/High End-Ex Condition - $225" but.... nah.
I'm kind've appalled low end 80's centurions still had safety levers and stem shifters!
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Pretty typical really. It brought the Euro style drop bar bike to the masses. Virtually every bike maker did it.
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