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Old 12-10-11, 04:13 PM
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Suntour Freewheel Heirarchy

Probably been asked 100 times before, but for the absent-minded, search inhibited population amongst us, what is the order of Suntour freewheel models (Winner, Winner Pro, 888, compe, etc, etc)?
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Roughly:

Superb Pro
Winner Pro
Winner
Pro-Comp
Perfect

Accushift 6 and 7 speeds kind of sit outside the line-up. Some Winner (&Pro) are spaced for Accushift, and so are high end. But the bulk are kinda Perfect level quality though the internals and spline system was completely revamped.

888 has no real meaning vis-a-vis quality (it's not really a model), it just dates the freewheels to the mid 1970s at the latest.

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Winner came first, had gold cogs, then they released New Winner, with silver cogs, Winner Pro has the 4-prong body. Ultra models were available in New Winner and Winner Pro.
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Throw the Microlite to the top of the list.
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Really? I JUST found one a them. I think it's going to be the cornerstone of a weight-weenie build.
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Just how can one tell an Ultra Six from a regular 6 speed without having them side by side? The far side of the largest cog to the far side of the smallest cog is 26.6mm on both of these.

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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
Just how can one tell an Ultra Six from a regular 6 speed without having them side by side? The far side of the largest cog to the far side of the smallest cog is 26.6mm on both of these.
Hmmm... on a New Winner body, the regular-6 freewheel's small cog will be above the freewheel body, like an Ultra-7. That is, the last cog threads onto the second cog, which threads onto the freewheel body. On an Ultra-6, the last cog threads directly on to the freewheel body. I hope this makes it a little clearer:

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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
Just how can one tell an Ultra Six from a regular 6 speed without having them side by side? The far side of the largest cog to the far side of the smallest cog is 26.6mm on both of these.

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The first one pictured can be adjusted tension wise on the bike with the right tool the second just no on adjustment.
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I just put a wide-range Winner on my Eisentraut's wheelset today. I think it might be NOS (I got it with the purchase of another bike) as it's whisper silent.
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
Just how can one tell an Ultra Six from a regular 6 speed without having them side by side? The far side of the largest cog to the far side of the smallest cog is 26.6mm on both of these.
If you happen to have the official Suntour measuring tool....
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Other than the rare bike shop that has been around since or earlier than the 70's no one seems to have Sutour freewheel tools other than the basic removing tool. I had an adjustment wrench ounce upon a time.

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