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    Age and model of this Ideale saddle with alloy rails

    No marking on the leather.
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    AFAIK the alloy rails nearly always indicate a model 90, don't know why there's no stamp on the saddle skirt, but could it just be worn smooth? Age I can't say but this appears to be the earlier 90 with no spring-loaded device in the nose.

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    The classicrendezvous site shows other Ideale saddle models with alloy rails. I do agree the shape mostly resembles a mod. 90, however my saddle had the alloy rails pinned to the saddle inward compared to the link below with its rails pinned outward.

    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Fra...le_alloy90.htm

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    If you haven't seen my thread about the sad Model 90 Ideale I found at the dump, you should check it out. So Sad, the Fate of an Ideale Saddle.

    Here's a picture of the frame with the markings on the rear. How does it match up to your saddle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    If you haven't seen my thread about the sad Model 90 Ideale I found at the dump, you should check it out. So Sad, the Fate of an Ideale Saddle.

    Here's a picture of the frame with the markings on the rear. How does it match up to your saddle?

    Thanks, actually it was reading your post that reminded me I had an Ideale similar to yours. I took it out this morning and the rails had the same marking as you have shown. The only thing different is the orientation of the bend connecting the alloy rails to the saddle. Yours is bend outward vs. mine which bends inward.
    Your post is inspiring. Good to see such an effort to resurrect it.

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    Great looking saddle. Wish I could find one.
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    Anybody know where I can get the connection between the alloy saddle rails and seat post. I have a racing saddle from about 1949 and a female version which has lost it's connection

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    Try ebay France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caio View Post
    Anybody know where I can get the connection between the alloy saddle rails and seat post. I have a racing saddle from about 1949 and a female version which has lost it's connection
    Quote Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
    Try ebay France.
    I had always wondered if the clamp on an old Schwinn Varsity saddle might work. So I just searched and guessing on this picture, those rails look too narrow.



    But take a look at this old Schwinn saddle. That style clamp might work.

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    The OP's saddle has the shape of a 90, although many other Ideale models also had alloy rails (like my mod. 58). It came without the clamp. Ideale clamps for alloy rails are quite expensive, but lots of other clamps will work-- I found a clamp in my LBS for 2 bucks that works fine.

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    Tron et Berthet designated saddles with the alloy frame with a capital letter I. So the example under discussion would be a 90I. The 90I was also offered with the Rebour treatment, rodee main. Such products are identified as model 90IR.

    ZEUS manufactured clamp parts to fit an I framed saddle to the ZEUS Gran Sport/Criterium and Campag Record/Super Record pillars. They also fit the "copyoglo" pillars such as made by Anpi and Sakae Ringyo.


    The alloy frame has zero give. The steel rail frames actually do have a slight amount of give with the weight of the rider upon them.

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