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rccardr 01-05-12 11:46 AM

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I also want a Black Lightning...... 63cm frame..... the Batmobile on two wheels...
Ask and ye shall find: I have a black 62 cm 85 SR frame in storage and can have it powder coated, then build it up with a nice black Truvativ (compact crank)/Shimano (FD/RD/DT or STI shifters)/Tektro (brakes and if DT brake levers)/Mavic (rims on black hubs) combo with a black stem, Selle Italia black saddle and carbon seatpost. Evil looking, better performance than new, will last a lifetime.

OldsCOOL 01-05-12 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by oldbikenewbike (Post 13679598)
I also want a Black Lightning...... 63cm frame..... the Batmobile on two wheels...

Did you see the 60 on Ebay for 299.00?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-B...item45ffbcf7ae

oldbikenewbike 01-05-12 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rccardr (Post 13679923)
Ask and ye shall find: I have a black 62 cm 85 SR frame in storage and can have it powder coated, then build it up with a nice black Truvativ (compact crank)/Shimano (FD/RD/DT or STI shifters)/Tektro (brakes and if DT brake levers)/Mavic (rims on black hubs) combo with a black stem, Selle Italia black saddle and carbon seatpost. Evil looking, better performance than new, will last a lifetime.

I appreciate the offer, but I'm looking for a later ('89) with a 3.0 frame like on my Criterium. Also, I'd like it to be all original as I'm a purist at heart! Thanks anyway!!

oldbikenewbike 01-05-12 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL (Post 13679970)
Did you see the 60 on Ebay for 299.00?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-B...item45ffbcf7ae

I did see, thanks. But it's a tad to short. My Criterium is a 63cm frame.

mtnbke 01-06-12 02:49 AM

I've never had a Black Lightning, I don't think Cannondale made that bike in the big sizes they made the ST tourers in.

However, I've been thinking of having one of my STs redone as a Black Lightning. It wouldn't work for me because of strength, but if I didn't need outlier components I'd use a gold anodized Mavic stem and gold anodized Mavic bars. I actually sold both on eBay years ago, and one or the other was going on Black Lightning by the buyer, the other ended up in Japan. Very rare stuff, but not all that expensive when you find it. For derailleurs I'd go with the gold Superbe Pro special edition. That would pop. Apparently even some Mafac brakes were gold anodized. Peter White in 2006 said he rec'd gold anodized bars and stems from Nitto. Might still have both, still listing the stems for sale. I doubt you'll ever find a pair that aren't tubulars but Mavic also made gold anodized rims.

The black and gold Superbe Pro components were justMADE for the Black Lightning. I mean they are perfect (hubs, seatpost, shifters, derailleurs etc.):

http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/...285200%29.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/assembl...ve/2909442510/

http://the-bici.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=532

http://velospace.org/node/39727

mtnbke 01-06-12 02:52 AM

On that note would someone with a Black Lightning be willing to put together a really comprehensive image gallery of the frame/decals on Picassa or Flickr? I want to see how much it would be to get decals made up for restorations of these. Mine will be fake (27" frame) but the decals might help the rest of you with these who want to restore 'em. I'll do powdercoat, then clear coat spray (not powder) over the decals. Maybe just go with naked decals to save moolah.

Thanks.

supafast213 01-19-12 08:53 PM

Slow going lately. I've been able to put some miles on the Lightning. It needs a seat adjustment. I just wanted to show you guys the wheel set now that I've stripped the decals. These decals were very thin. I removed them with acetone.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics331.jpg
I know they're not very special, but they are the first step in converting the bike to STI. I am looking for various 5700 105 parts at this time.

supafast213 01-22-12 02:55 PM

I finally got a chance to wheel the Lightning out for some decent pics
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics324.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics326.jpg

I centered up the front wheel dish. It was never quite right.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics328.jpg

Check out the rear tire clearance. I have the wheel slightly lower than the pocket in the dropouts. The new wheel set will get some conti ultra race tires that will fit nicely. Sorry for the messy bike. The irrigation sprinklers on my ride today seemed to water the road more than the plants.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics329.jpg

supafast213 02-04-12 06:54 PM

Just a quick update and a question.
I got my front DR today. It's also 105 5700. I will get the decal off tomorrow.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics343.jpg

Does anyone know the measurements needed to get the correct headset for a late 80's Cannondale SR800? Any suggestions on a good long term replacement? Mine seems to be a little shagged...
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics344.jpg

supafast213 03-15-12 06:32 PM

Finally, some more updates on my conversion of the Black Lightning.
The bike came with a 5700 105 RD. I have acquired a new cassette, chain, and 5700 105 FD. I also needed a new set of brake pads (the pads on the bike were original to 1987). I picked up some 5700 pads at my LBS today. I had a chance to pull the bottom bracket. I wanted to put some fresh grease in while I searched for a new one. It is missing a ball on one side. I resembled reluctantly, solidifying my resolve to use a brand new one.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics374.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics375.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics376.jpg

Next on deck is a new crank set and BB. I'm also waiting on the "to good to be true" cheap 105 5700 black brifters. If you have some, let me know......

OldsCOOL 03-15-12 07:48 PM

Absolutely villainous.

WNG 03-15-12 10:50 PM

Darth Vader would like his bike back please.

rccardr 03-16-12 05:36 AM

He'll have to catch Batman first.

supafast213 03-16-12 06:12 PM

I ran across a pleasant surprise last night. The suntour indexed shifting seems to work well with my 10 speed cassette. I think I set the selector ring for "ultra" freewheels. The indexing is needed to counter the high spring rates on the modern RD. The RD was fighting the shifter in the bigger cogs and would pull itself back to the smaller cogs. This is good news because the budget for this build cannot absorb a new set of brifters for a while. Now I can focus my efforts on a new set of tires.
I'm not completely thrilled about the machined side walls on the wheels, however, the new pads on the machined rim stop great and are now silent.

supafast213 03-18-12 03:19 PM

I wiped the bike down after my ride today, so I wheeled it outside to take some pics with a better camera. (Note, the grass has not been cut since the "before" pic, apologies from the OP.)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics377.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics378.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics379.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics380.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics381.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics382.jpg

I think my BB is shot. It started clicking pretty severely today. I have an offer pending on a 5700 crankset and BB. We'll have to see how that goes.
I decided to put off using brifters on this build for a while. I am looking at getting some new brake levers to use while I find a good deal on brifters.
http://www.cheapbikeparts360.com/images/b/13732.jpg

I like the hood design on this lever. I doesn't seem as tortuous as the ones on the bike now.

supafast213 03-22-12 08:01 PM

Well, the mailman was good to me today. He brought me a set of new brake levers and some Cinelli cork tape. I decided to go with Tektro levers very similar to the ones posted above. The VERY OLD bar tape was a bear to remove, but carb cleaner won the war. The anodized bars have a cool spiral pattern to them. Unfortunately, it will be covered in tape.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics386.jpg

One pleasant surprise was the gold banding on the borders of the center bar sleeve. These were covered in tape. Once I removed the LH tape, I realized that the original owner was covering up a blem. I don't know how to fix that scratch and the one on the stem.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics387.jpg

Before I quit for the night, I mocked up the new brakes to see how they would look. I can't say they look any better than a nice aero lever, but I hope they are more comfortable.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics389.jpg

Oh yeah, I swapped seats with one of my other bikes to see how it works. I used the Brooks Swift off the Fuji. It seems to go well with the black and gold scheme. What do you think?
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics384.jpg

reducedfatoreo 03-22-12 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RFC (Post 13646900)
Lawn Darts! Cool! When my mother passed, my sister threw my Lawn Darts away out of some sense of safety. I still want a set. One of the best products liability examples of all time.

A little off-topic, but they *were* in the first post. Also known as Jarts. The recall on these things was hilarious.

http://toyreport.org/wp-content/uplo...wndart-gov.jpg

http://luciferslawngame.com/images/jarts%20(2)%201.jpg

supafast213 03-22-12 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by reducedfatoreo (Post 14005585)
A little off-topic, but they *were* in the first post. Also known as Jarts. The recall on these things was hilarious.

We used to throw them over the house.:twitchy:

OldsCOOL 03-23-12 04:05 AM

Cats havent been safe since.

supafast213 03-24-12 07:09 PM

I had the chance to rewrap the bars today. Here is my result...
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics392.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics391.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics390.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ilepics393.jpg

Drillium Dude 03-24-12 08:50 PM

Fantastic results each time you upgrade :) Love the gold pinstripe action going on at the bar sleeve. That is one stealthy, bad-ass looking bike!

What's the ride report say?

DD

supafast213 03-25-12 06:22 AM

Thanks DD. I was ready to roll this morning but it rained last night and it's still pretty wet out there. I need to make a seat adjustment, but my adjuster screw is cracked and doesn't give me the range I need with the Brooks. So far, the mods have all given me positive results. The tricky part was keeping the bike ride-able through the entire process. It got a little fuzzy when it had a 6 speed freewheel, 7 speed shifters, 8 speed chain, and 10 speed derailleurs.
The most important mods have been in the areas where I touch the bike. I picked up some proper riding shoes and pedals (HUGE DIFFERENCE) and the new brake levers are way more comfy. The seat is still in question. I like the way it looks but it needs some adjustment.
We've still got tires, crank, and bottom bracket to go.

supafast213 03-25-12 12:34 PM

I just scored a great deal on a set of 5700 105 cranks! (Black of course) It doesn't come with a bottom bracket. All of my bikes have had C+V BBs. I need some advise on which external BB I should get. Of course, the cups should be black.

OldsCOOL 03-25-12 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by supafast213 (Post 14014676)
I just scored a great deal on a set of 5700 105 cranks! (Black of course) It doesn't come with a bottom bracket. All of my bikes have had C+V BBs. I need some advise on which external BB I should get. Of course, the cups should be black.

It better be black!!

ZeRinger 03-25-12 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jar351 (Post 13663656)
I briefly owned the previous year's equivalent to the Black Lightning, the '86 SR800, which came with the original all black Superbe Pro groupset in great shape. It was one helluva bike, but at the time I was new to road biking and I didn't know sh*t about bike fit so I sold it because I thought it was too small for me. I realize now that it actually fit me quite well and these days whenever I see a black C'dale, I'm overwhelmed with regret. Congrats on your new acquisition. Enjoy it!

Black Superbe Pro... oh, the drooling is uncontrollable! ;)


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