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Old 12-30-11, 08:21 PM   #1
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Blasphemy.



First to figure out what I'm doing with this one gets an e-cigar.
First to identify the frame gets bragging rights of having spent too much time going through the forum archives.

If you figure out both at once, the internet will implode.

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8-speed Chorus/Record with brifters? Seems there's a lot of that sort of blasphemy around lately...



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8-speed Chorus/Record with brifters? Seems there's a lot of that sort of blasphemy around lately...
Not at all.

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Kurt, you didn't catch "fixie-fever", now, did you?

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A bike for bike polo is my guess.

edit: it's an awfully pretty frame for that, though.
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Izzat a Miyata frame? The dishing on the tops of the seat stays looks like theirs.
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Kurt, you didn't catch "fixie-fever", now, did you?
No...but it is a fixie.

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A bike for bike polo is my guess.

edit: it's an awfully pretty frame for that, though.
You win the cigar.

It also so happens to have a replacement seattube that didn't go in quite well. Half of the BB shoreline is missing. The paint job is pure rattlecan.

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Frame is a "Englert Special".
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You win the cigar.

It also so happens to have a replacement seattube that didn't go in quite well. Half of the BB shoreline is missing. The paint job is pure rattlecan.

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What gave it away is that we get a few bike polo bikes in our shop, and running a rear brake only with the lever on the left side is the standard setup. Keeps the right hand free for whacking the ball with the mallet.
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What gave it away is that we get a few bike polo bikes in our shop, and running a rear brake only with the lever on the left side is the standard setup.
Well, it could be that the other brake just hadn't been installed yet. Like the crank and the chain and the front wheel and rear tire and the pedals and the bar tape and the derailleurs and the shift levers. Sheesh, do you folks ever notice the details???
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Well, it could be that the other brake just hadn't been installed yet. Like the crank and the chain and the front wheel and rear tire and the pedals and the bar tape and the derailleurs and the shift levers. Sheesh, do you folks ever notice the details???
I see two brake calipers

That either means my eyes are still working or I'm going senile.

I'd like to see a close-up of that re-brazing issue you wrote of. Sounds kinda iffy - just what one needs in a rough-and-tumble bike polo match (at least as far as entertainment value for the spectators goes, that is).

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Tunnel vision. There was an e-cigar at stake.
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I see two brake calipers
Yeah, but that interrupter lever on just the left side.....just the one brake cable, and it going to the rear brake........they were tell-tale signs.

Honestly, I still say it's an awfully pretty frame for bike polo. Most of the bike polo bikes we see are r-o-u-g-h.

FWIW, most of the polo players around here use a singlespeed with a freewheel instead of going fixed. Some of them ride fixed, and are really good at it, but a lot of them start out that way and go to a freewheel later, and a lot just start out riding with a freewheel. The rear-brake-only is ideal for bike polo because it gives the best control for "polo situations," or so they tell me.

I have never played bike polo. I have been around quite a few folks who are passionate about it, though, and our shop has done a lot of work on their bikes. We had a rather serious polo player working for us for a while.
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You've turned your Superior into a Circus Unicycle?? With Rainbow stripes no less.....
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Frame is a "Englert Special".
Cigar #2. You have a phenomenal memory - this is, indeed, the same frame:



Honestly, I don't know what it is. The rear triangle was obviously re-done at one time too. I suspect it's German.

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What gave it away is that we get a few bike polo bikes in our shop, and running a rear brake only with the lever on the left side is the standard setup. Keeps the right hand free for whacking the ball with the mallet.
That's about the size of it. I did want to run a front brake (and preferably run both of those interrupters into normal levers for the look of a proper road bike), but I couldn't find the second interrupter.

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Well, it could be that the other brake just hadn't been installed yet. Like the crank and the chain and the front wheel and rear tire and the pedals and the bar tape and the derailleurs and the shift levers. Sheesh, do you folks ever notice the details???
Everything but the front wheel and bar tape has since been taken care of.

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I'd like to see a close-up of that re-brazing issue you wrote of.
I'll get you a photo in the morning.

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FWIW, most of the polo players around here use a singlespeed with a freewheel instead of going fixed. Some of them ride fixed, and are really good at it, but a lot of them start out that way and go to a freewheel later, and a lot just start out riding with a freewheel. The rear-brake-only is ideal for bike polo because it gives the best control for "polo situations," or so they tell me.
After playing the game twice, I came up with the following formula:

1. Gear low, but not so that you spin out before reaching the other side of the court.
2. Put the strongest rear brake possible on the back so you can skid to a stop at full speed.

I bought a flip-flop hub to try both ways. I'd prefer to keep my claim that I own no fixed-gear bikes

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Bicycles.

Polo.


do the math.
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do the math.
I'll fall over?

Been hit 5 times in the past two games - direct T-bones - and kept upright.

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Been hit 5 times in the past two games - direct T-bones - and kept upright.

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Side impact air bags?? Or lots of padding.....??
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Side impact air bags?? Or lots of padding.....??
I was channeling your ego. Best air bag ever made.

Humor aside, I'll have to build a wheel for this thing if it is to make it out by Sunday. Fingers crossed I have a spare 32h hub.

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It's finished. I hate the front disc (it's from a 1986 Huffy - one of those bike shaped objects that looks like a time-trial funny bike), but I didn't have anything better to put on it. I'll probably replace it with clear acetate plastic when I get a chance. I bought some white bar tape for it - in true Eddy tradition.

Come to think of it, it doesn't look too bad - for a polo bike. I can live with it.









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I'd like to see a close-up of that re-brazing issue you wrote of. Sounds kinda iffy - just what one needs in a rough-and-tumble bike polo match (at least as far as entertainment value for the spectators goes, that is).
As you requested, DD:





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The fork will get bent!
Given that the fork crown was not shaped evenly on each side, I don't care if it does wind up smashed

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As you requested, DD:





Wow - I was going to comment that the paint and all didn't look bad at all from 5 feet away. I guess that's what 5 feet away is for...

Looks aside, is the BB junction safe? I'm having terrible visions of top tubes meeting soft tissue here!

BTW, how much of the stem is in the steerer tube? Looks as though you're taking a page out of Grant's book there.

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Looks aside, is the BB junction safe? I'm having terrible visions of top tubes meeting soft tissue here!
Absolutely. If you were to remove the paint, you would find most of those globs around the lug are brass - and a lot of it. It compensates quite well for the knackered-up lug.

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It's a long SR that I pulled out of a ladies' Schwinn Sprint. The quill extends for at least 2.5" farther into the steerer. The idea was to create the ride quality of a riser flat bar without a riser.

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