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    Whats your worst CL experience? ill start with mine...

    Here is my most frustrating experience with Craigslist: So last night im going through craigslist and find a specialized stumpjumper m2 hardtail for $25 and a trek road bike with shimanoo 600 components for another $25 (same seller). I emailed the lady selling them and she said to come pick them up and out the door i rushed. When I got to the sellers house, there were 3 people already there to buy the bike, and just after I got there a few more showed up. The really idiotic seller had promised the bikes to about 6 or so people, and decided to hold the trek for some guy because she had promised it to him despite the fact that she had done the same to me only I was actually there with cash in hand. Anyway, I didnt buy any bikes that night and got very upset with the seller..rant over.

    Whats your story?

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    I had this guy with a nice Gitane builder for $20. He hadn't sold it after a couple of weeks of listling. After several tries I got a hold of the guy. After several e-mails and calls I set up a time to come and buy the bike. I went to the guys place at the set time rang the bell knocked on the door despite there being several people in the house made into apartments that could see me knocking no one would come to the door. Since I was without car at the time I had taken a bus and walked a a mile or so a very big disiapointment.

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    Ah the joys of CL...

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    I answered an ad for a wheelset for $60.00 The seller bragged that he worked at a bike shop and they were in great shape. I only had 7sp and 8sp bikes at the time, so I asked the seller if they were Shimano 8-sp compatible. He assured me they were.

    He repeated that he worked at a bike shop, and named the shop. My friend "roccobike" picked them up for me.
    He thought they were nice, and Al knows his stuff.

    When I got them home, I quickly realized my 8sp cassettes wouldn't fit. I went to Sheldon Brown for advice, and learned of "10-sp only." It seems from 2004-2008, there were some 10-sp freehubs that had extra-deep splines due to different materials being used in the carrier.

    So, I sent an email to the seller, Mr. Bike Expert, advising of the 10-sp only capability of the wheelset. I asked if I could bring them back. He said "no way, you don't know what you're talking about. I work at a bike shop." I emailed him the photos from Sheldon's web site.

    He said "I don't care, I'm not refunding your money." Not a problem. I re-listed them on CL, referenced the rip-off and the bike shop. I soon got an email from the owner of the bike shop, asking the problem. I explained. He said "_ _ _ _" will be glad to work it out."

    At the same time, I got a 2-page email from "_ _ _ _" calling me every name in the book, heated to the point of fusion. I simply forwarded it to the shop owner. Within an hour, the owner said "_ _ _ _" will work it out. A second flaming email followed.

    I left the CL listing up, and rec'd a note from the shop owner asking that it come down. I altered my ad to state that, while the seller works at "____" bike shop, the sale was neither one the shop transacted nor was misrepresentation a common business practice there.

    I cleaned up the wheels and sulked. A few months later, I happen across a handlebar, 10-sp STI's attached, sitting on the floor of my LBS, next to a box that contained a 10-sp cassette, RD, and chain. Went home with it all for $105. Within a couple more months, I had my group, for about $220. I promptly put it on an Ironman and rode it like the whole mess was meticulously planned.
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    Lucky man... well the common stuff that happens is that the sellers do not answer the emails for example. One day I spotted a Saninno in kind'a bad shape for the right price, drove to Downtown Dc to pick it up (real PITA to drive the), called the guy by phone, knocked the bell of his apt and nothing at all. Never knew what happened, no idea if he sold it either.

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    None - yet - that have left a bad taste in the mouth. However, I have yet to find an honest Craigslist classic car seller, which has led me to devise the following Craigslist-to-English translation chart:

    "Mint, rust free" = "There are areas of rust at the bottom of the quarter panels and under the vinyl roof trim."
    "A little rust" = "The trunk has significant rotting, and/or holes, plus large rust on quarters. Rust is significant around rear window, including at least one hole."
    "Some rust" = "Every body panel has significant rust, and there are holes in the hood."
    "Restorable" = "The leaf springs broke through the rear seats yesterday, but I still want $5,000 for it."
    "Never wrecked, never crashed" = "...because I'm in denial of these facts."
    "Rust-free and completely restored" = "Caked with Bondo and painted in my backyard with the cheapest, Chinese spray *** I could get at Harbor Freight."

    "A/C needs freon" = "Both the A/C compressor and power steering pump are shot."
    "Needs tune up" = "The engine seized when the oil drain cross-threaded and fell out."
    "Power steering pump is bad" = "The water pump is leaking, and I don't know where I put the carburetor."
    "Radiator leaking" = "The radiator needs to be replaced, because the front end of the car is smashed beyond recognition."

    That's just with the Lincolns. I can't even find someone that'll sell me a '71-73 Dodge Coronet.

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    This just happened to me yesterday. I had responded to a Craigs ad for a Fuji Gran Touring. Although it was the Friday before New Years, and I was looking at a 5 hour drive home, I was willing to take the time to drive out of my way to take a look at this bike. The seller gave me his address and phone number, so I made my way through the Friday traffic to the address. It ended up being a business address, and although the people that worked there knew the seller, he was nowhere to be found and didnít answer his phone. What a waste of time, and what a flake.
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    ref: Motivated sellers. (motivating sellers?)

    A chrome 1973 Paramount, the guy wants too much, I want the bike. So I wait him out. Three months later he still has it and the same three tiny cell phone camera images. (one that is sideways) I ask him again to send me better photos. He can email me, but can't take better photos and email those?
    He emails me ten times what will you give me? etc. I need Xmas money etc.. I keep asking him over and over.
    "I am not driving 150 miles until you email me better images than those three crummy phone camera photos. Then I can tell you a ball park of what I am willing to give. "
    More emails. "what will you give me for the bike?"
    Another month has gone by and I'm still waiting for better images..
    I want it, but not so bad as to waste a whole day chasing a pig in a poke.
    That's my worst so I guess I've got it pretty good so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illwafer View Post
    Wow. A lot of hate in that thread. I guess nobody should ever stumble over a good deal.

    I've only had one experience on CL so far as bikes go, (nothing much good ever for sale in my area), but I can't complain. I picked up a Trek 970 for free today. I was actually surprised he held it until I got there.
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    So far, it has to be the four hour drive because the seller could not measure 23"

    Stan: I looked at this bike in person several months ago because the
    seller told me it was a 23' or 23 1/2" frame (my size.....and it is not).

    I like the seller, but am as far from it driving as Joe, so was not
    particularly happy to have driven the two hours for no reason.
    Thus, I only gave it a quick once over, as a curiosity more than
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    Quote Originally Posted by zukahn1 View Post
    I had this guy with a nice Gitane builder for $20. He hadn't sold it after a couple of weeks of listling. After several tries I got a hold of the guy. After several e-mails and calls I set up a time to come and buy the bike. I went to the guys place at the set time rang the bell knocked on the door despite there being several people in the house made into apartments that could see me knocking no one would come to the door. Since I was without car at the time I had taken a bus and walked a a mile or so a very big disiapointment.
    Mine was similar to yours, except the place was empty.
    The ad, a $75 Raleigh International (with nice pics, my size), was a hoax. I drove 50mi to the hoaxer's given address. Turns out its a foreclosed house.

    The thing is, I did have a conversation with the hoaxer before heading out.
    I tried calling him a few more times afterwards, just to say F@*k You! And to challenge him to a duel, but he won't answer.
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    I have one potential buyer who has contacted me on several bikes including the Gitane which you have all seen that claims to be knowledgable on bikes and claims to know nothing of Suntour DR's says they are all junk and tries to argue that any bike with them should be a $100 bike.

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    I've been lucky so far. All the sellers have been pretty reasonable, and the buyers have been mostly fine. The weirdest one was I had to remove some pedals for a guy because he didn't want to sell them but he lacked tools; we had to drive back to my apartment, put it in my stand and use my wrench. But it was a good price for a good frame so I didn't mind.

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    I've been lucky so far with sellers. I've bought some bikes and had no problems. They were nice people and represented their bikes in the ads well. I called one seller about a bike and it turned out he collected similar bikes. After some chatting, he ended up delivering the bike he had for sale to my house AND buying one I had for sale.

    Buyers on the other hand have been nothing but a pain. I get the usual scam emails, people that want the item shipped (for free or next to nothing) and lowballers that want to give you $50.00 for something you have listed for $350. The thing I don't get are the people that exchange several emails, ask thousands of questions, request extra pictures, and finally come to an agreement on price, and then they fall off the face of the earth.
    There's always room for one more bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsting View Post
    Buyers on the other hand have been nothing but a pain. I get the usual scam emails, people that want the item shipped (for free or next to nothing) and lowballers that want to give you $50.00 for something you have listed for $350. The thing I don't get are the people that exchange several emails, ask thousands of questions, request extra pictures, and finally come to an agreement on price, and then they fall off the face of the earth.
    You can solve half of those issues by not accepting emails via Craigslist.

    If you're worried about putting your phone number down due to robot spam calls, make a black-and-white .jpg image with your phone number and insert it with HTML code.

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    My apologies if my theory has been put forth before.

    Seems as though when sellers don't know the value of something, they tend to list on CL to gauge the response. They then go to Ebay with a final value in mind.

    Then you have the lowball buyers who think they know it all but are completely out to lunch.

    Free entertainment at its finest on both sides of the fence

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    Its free, I expect flakes, and I get them. I get flakes on ebay as well, and there its not free,

    I set the bar really, really low on C/L, I expect the bike to be junk, misrepresented, etc, Usually it turns out better, sometimes not.

    OK, I guess the worst one was where I drove two hours one way to get a bike. The "deal" was, seller was going to hold it until I arrived, as I called when I left and along the way. So I am just about 5 minutes from the guy's house, so I call to check in, "Oh, I just sold it." WTF? "But I have another bike (it was in the ad, grossly overpriced), why don" you come by to look at it." Yeah, right.

    To be fair, anytime I drive a longer distance to scoop a bike, I assume there will be a good chance that it is going to be gone. Most of the time, those deals do work out,

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    Guy advertised a never used 10 speed cassette for $35.

    Said he took it off His Bike.
    3 days and 6 e-mails later, we meet in a shopping center.

    It is an 8 speed that he got from his father- inn laws bike.
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    This guy might be the top *** on this thread - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...t-robbery.html
    At least the thugs are in jail and the victim is going to be OK.......
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    Other than one misrepresented sale that I turned into lucky lemonade, my CL experience has been good. I lose a lot of items because I'm 40 miles away and can't just run over to Raleigh, but several have accepted PayPal until I got there, and several more have actually shipped me the items when I paid via PayPal and added shipping. I've not met any jerks in person whatsoever. I'm extremely fortunate in that I've had BF members pick up my item and I've gone and gotten it from them on a couple occasions, when time was of the essence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss Cartright View Post
    This guy might be the top *** on this thread - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...t-robbery.html
    At least the thugs are in jail and the victim is going to be OK.......
    There was one recently where the CL seller of an X-box or something was met at his door by 3 armed "buyers." They robbed him of the game and cash and left. Somehow, he shot two of them as they left. Warmed my heart.

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    I buy and sell a lot of things on CL besides bikes and a lot of the above problems come up. I just move on and no longer get upset over it. Some items that I sell people say they are coming over to get it and never show. I give them a time window and if they can't make it then it goes to the next person. I no longer sit around and wait for people. I make a appointment and tell the next buyer to call me at a certain time to see if I still have the bike. If is is something I want badly I add a few bucks to the price and they will hold it every time till I get there. I had to drive a long distance for a Cannondale I wanted and new it would be gone so I added $25 to the price and the seller held it for me. It is all part of the game,make it fun. If you really want it add a few dollars to the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    Guy advertised a never used 10 speed cassette for $35.

    Said he took it off His Bike.
    3 days and 6 e-mails later, we meet in a shopping center.

    It is an 8 speed that he got from his father- inn laws bike.
    I have had similar stuff happen a lot of unknowing people call almost any bike with drop bars or parts off them ten speed most are not.

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    It's the seller that just plain lies. Me:" are there ANY dents on the frame?"
    Seller:"NO, not any".
    I drive an hour to see a dent plainly visible on the top tube and say, "looks like a dent to me.
    Seller:"Oh, it doesn't affect the ride in any way".
    Some people operate on a different wavelength when it comes to the truth. It's the nature of the world and Craig's list.

    If it's a bike I want to ride and pay market value I try and gauge the truth that the seller speaks from his general knowledge of what he is selling. If it's undervalued and a flip then just go and get it.

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