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    1980 Jack Taylor Super Touring Tandem

    I was lucky enough to find this Jack Taylor tandem with a captain's position in my size (if not a tad big) made in the year of my birth just two hours drive from me. I won the auction and hit the road just after it ended. The captain's seat tube is 63cm CTC and the stoker is 59cm CTC.

    This winter I will do a complete overhaul. I will probably change the bars and brake levers as well as the fenders and lights, putting the originals away for safe keeping.

    I was told that this tandem originally belonged to an Englishman who brought it to the US. Years later, when he moved back to England, he decided he didn't want to incur the expense of shipping it back. I suspect he took the saddles with him as the originals were no longer with the bike.

    I can't wait to get it overhauled, cleaned, polished and on the road cruising at 30mph. I've wanted a Jack Taylor since first discovering the brothers several years ago. That this one fits me and is from my birth year makes it all the more special. Too bad my wife's not 5'10" so she could ride it with me.



















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    That is totally awesome!

    Now it is looking for a stoker. How do you approach that task?
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    I have several friends who would be up to the task, Mel. My friend who rides ~18k miles a year would be a good candidate. I'm looking forward to some club rides at high speeds.
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    I've been waiting to see this! AMAZING bike...HUGE, but amazing.

    The tubing looks pretty thin in diameter...I'm betting you'll get some flex in the rear position.

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    That is one beautiful tandem atmo! I have noticed that the Jack Taylor bicycles have some of the most nicely done boxlining of any out there. The lining is simple and elegant, not overwrought.

    WRT the stoker's position being too tall for your wife to ride, I suggest shortened cranks. My wife is 5'4" and rides my Davidson which is 50cm c/c and the seatpost is extended by about 2 1/2 inches with a Brooks Flyer saddle. Maybe between a combination of shortened cranks, "slamming" the stoker's seatpost and using a saddle that has a lower profile like a B-17 may make the bike manageable for your wife. I'm sure you already know this but just in case you haven't thought of it before now, the stoker does not need to support the bike - stokers feet are supposed to remain on the pedals when in the saddle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
    I have several friends who would be up to the task, Mel. My friend who rides ~18k miles a year would be a good candidate. I'm looking forward to some club rides at high speeds.
    And with a tandem you'll definitely get some high speeds, that's for sure! Since it doesn't have a drum brake, if you can find one you might want to think about one for fast descents.
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    FABULOUS!! funny thing is I notice a BJ tandem somewhere this afternoon and I may have to go look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
    The tubing looks pretty thin in diameter...I'm betting you'll get some flex in the rear position.
    I believe the Taylor brothers were the only builders to which Reynolds supplied the special 531 tandem tubing. They were skilled and known for their tandems (pretty much the best during this time period) so I'm not worried about it in the least. Those BB shells are just gorgeously brazed.

    Quote Originally Posted by photogravity View Post
    And with a tandem you'll definitely get some high speeds, that's for sure! Since it doesn't have a drum brake, if you can find one you might want to think about one for fast descents.
    I'll buy an Arai if one comes around, but I've spoken to several vintage tandem riders and they tell me I'll be fine without one. Note that there's a cable stop brazed on the non-drive side chain stay for the actuator cable so if I find one that's nice. My wife is 5'5". I'm not going to replace the cranks and the difference is too small for a child stoker crank, I reckon. She'd seldom ride with me anyhow.
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    That is quite the tallboy tandem you've acquired. I might have a J.Taylor stoker stem for you to fit on back, in the spirit of PIF, when I return home from AK. My 650b Tourist model #7590 is a bit smaller at 24/22 ST, but is nearly identical to yours minus the dynamo/integrated wiring fitments. The Reynolds butted tubing decals on mine have crumbled as well, love that Forest Green color!
    I recall a lovely Campagnolo tandem Crankset w/bottom brackets of yours recently, keeping with the Specialites TA?
    Just got a wheelset put together, looking forward to a bit of tandeming. I don't expect you'll have too much trouble finding a stoker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
    I'll buy an Arai if one comes around, but I've spoken to several vintage tandem riders and they tell me I'll be fine without one. My wife is 5'5". I'm not going to replace the cranks and difference is too small for a child stoker crank I reckon. She'd seldom ride with me anyhow.
    Well given the stoker's seatube is 59cm and your wife is 5'5" it would be a challenge to get a good fit even with shortened cranks, I'd imagine. Yeah, just ride it with your buddies instead. Besides, you don't want to have to pedal your wife around anyway!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneferd View Post
    That is quite the tallboy tandem you've acquired. I might have a J.Taylor stoker stem for you to fit on back, in the spirit of PIF, when I return home from AK. My 650b Tourist model #7590 is a bit smaller at 24/22 ST, but is nearly identical to yours minus the dynamo/integrated wiring fitments. The Reynolds butted tubing decals on mine have crumbled as well, love that Forest Green color!
    I recall a lovely Campagnolo tandem Crankset w/bottom brackets of yours recently, keeping with the Specialites TA?
    Just got a wheelset put together, looking forward to a bit of tandeming. I don't expect you'll have too much trouble finding a stoker.
    Cool! I'm told many JT tandems were built around 650B wheels. A fellow here in town ordered one in the mid 70s. The Campagnolo tandem cranks weren't mine. I'll keep these cranks as is.
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    I've been having a hunt for differing timing rings, and have scared up pairs in 28, 32 & 35 tooth. The Grand Bois Lierres will fit for now, and some Michelin World tours would be great for eat-em-up riding. I'm still hoping to use a pair of Hetres for my lighter weight speed configuration. If you ever need to refit your frame, the brass cheesehead bolts are designated 2ba. I ordered mine from Great Britain, an you can find them in varying size. I have a few in 3/4" for the sake of fenderline adjustment. The eccentric pinch bolts are Gripfast, and similar to the ones fitted on J.Taylor stems.

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    Beautiful bike, and appears to be in great shape. Being built in 1980 puts you and the bike at a whopping 31 years old! I'm sure you will enjoy it for many years.

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    fyi you can ride a tandem solo. i've heard they are rather luxurious.

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    Justin,

    That JT is the score of a lifetime. It looks like it was stored in a nice, dry location and the paint looks fantastic. What a nice set of parts on this baby, as well. I'm sure you're going to do a top notch restoration and I can't wait to see the final iteration.

    By the way, my wife would fit stoker just fine .

    Quote Originally Posted by illwafer View Post
    fyi you can ride a tandem solo. i've heard they are rather luxurious.
    A local friend of mine rides his Santana tandem solo all around Cambridge. Makes for some rather predictable and tired comments from passersby ("Hey buddy, you lost someone!"). And I ride my Bike Friday tandem solo after dropping my daughter off at school. For the most part they ride like long-tail bikes, but the rear end can get a bit uneasy without some weight back there. They are designed to handle and ride best with weight on both ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southpawboston View Post
    By the way, my wife would fit stoker just fine .
    Thanks, Anton. I'm very happy to have it. PM me for my address and I'll send Tiffany your way.




    Quote Originally Posted by illwafer View Post
    fyi you can ride a tandem solo. i've heard they are rather luxurious.
    Quote Originally Posted by southpawboston View Post
    For the most part they ride like long-tail bikes, but the rear end can get a bit uneasy without some weight back there. They are designed to handle and ride best with weight on both ends.


    I'll ride it around the block for to work out bugs, but I have plenty of bikes designed for one person I'd rather ride solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
    Thanks, Anton. I'm very happy to have it. PM me for my address and I'll send Tiffany your way.
    Ha, I was going to suggest a trade but held off.

    I'm expecting I can "try before I buy"?

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    That paint looks like it was applied yesterday! (It wasn't, was it?) - Anyway it looks fab, Justin. Quite a score!
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    Thanks, Auchen. The paint really does look great. I mean, I haven't even wiped the dust off! It was obviously seldom ridden and stored properly.
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    Beautiful bike...I ride our tandem solo on occasion, usually because I have dropped my bride off and wanted to go somewhere else. Haven't heard too many comments, probably because we don't have much pedestrian/cycle traffic in this area.

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    Wow, wow, wow, and WOW! Justin, what a great score! I just kept looking at the pictures and marveling at this beautiful tandem.

    You need to add the British Green Brooks B-17 saddles and your dad in the stoker position.

    What type of RD and FD is it running? Do you have the front fender?
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    Fantastic score Justin, congrats! I've always admired the box lining on Jack Taylors, super classy.

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    Taylors are so understated yet so distinctive and eye catching. Really remarkable bike Justin...love it.

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