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Old 01-08-12, 11:13 AM   #1
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1st gen nouvo record front derailleur

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I believe i have a 1st gen fd.It has the cable stop ,with a nut and bolt attachment for the parallelogram and only one adjuster screw.All original fittings and perfect working order.It is as light as any modern one. But how can i use it on a modern bike with the cable stop?
Will it work as well as a modern one?
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Any chance we could see a picture of what your derailleur looks like? This one is purported to be first generation and it has two adjuster screws. I would like to see the OP's single adjuster screw example.
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I will stick up a photo later but on second it appears the inside adjuster screw is sheared off.I have to give it a clean to be sure
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Your link is to a Record rather than Nuovo Record FD. I'm thinking the first generation NR's are the ones with the spring arm holding the arm to the steel post rather than using a circlip. The attachment point for that post is also thinner in back and so the post had a tendency to pull out of its swagged fitting.They had no intrinsic cable stop. I see on Velobase that the Nuovo Record/ Record distinction is questionable. My thinking on this is conjecture. I'm certain I'll find my further education delightful.
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Any chance we could see a picture of what your derailleur looks like? This one is purported to be first generation and it has two adjuster screws. I would like to see the OP's single adjuster screw example.

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Well i took some photos but i don' know how to put them here.
So they are here http://www.flickr.com/photos/blamester/
Cheers for lookin any gen welcome
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That is a very early Record derailleur, not a true first generation which would have a screw holding the upper pivot in place.

I don't think you would want to use this on a modern bike.
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Hi lads
So what year do you think it is?
If i can't use it i may sell it or pass it on to someone who can, really it's no use to me i don't have a bike (and probably won't) have one to install it on.
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Your link is to a Record rather than Nuovo Record FD. I'm thinking the first generation NR's are the ones with the spring arm holding the arm to the steel post rather than using a circlip. The attachment point for that post is also thinner in back and so the post had a tendency to pull out of its swagged fitting.They had no intrinsic cable stop. I see on Velobase that the Nuovo Record/ Record distinction is questionable. My thinking on this is conjecture. I'm certain I'll find my further education delightful.
They were all "Record." There was no "Nuovo Record" front derailleur.
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They were all "Record." There was no "Nuovo Record" front derailleur.
What he said.

In fact, only 2.5 components in a "Nuovo Record group" were Nuovo Record. (Nuovo = new): The rear derailleur (new because it was made of aluminum instead of chrome-plated brass), the bottom bracket (new because it had the rifling in the cups and revised spindles to match), and sometimes the headset (just a box-marking thing; the headsets were exactly the same, regardless of what the box said).

Everything else in that 'group' was Record. Everything.
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Hi lads
So what year do you think it is?
If i can't use it i may sell it or pass it on to someone who can, really it's no use to me i don't have a bike (and probably won't) have one to install it on.
Cheers
By the way nice photos otis
It is approx. 50 years old. Second-generation Record. The sheared-off adjuster screw is a problem that may or may not be fixable. If you can carefully extract that broken screw from below, then the derailleur is useable. If not, then it is a decorative item.
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Hi cheers for the replies
I have been offered 40 dollars shipped for this which practically amounts to zero.Ireland to the States ain't gonna be cheap.
I quite like it actually a little piece off cycling history.
I think i will be able to remove the sheared screw but i will wait till i am in work next week.
The guy i got it off said he had the whole bike he just took this off, why i don't know?
He had no idea what it was it was just an old bike to him, hopefully i will see him again.
Thanks again
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Hi dudes
I can't reply to private messages, post count to low.I bought it off a dude in a market near Drogheda where i live he had general bit's and bob's with some bike parts mostly junk / cheap.
Hopefully ,fingers crossed, next week i will see him again, I sure would like to see that bike, but i think it's probably been pulled apart
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