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Old 01-09-12, 05:00 AM   #1
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Love him or hate him, it's a great bike

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Did you see him with the "earbud"? Wow, the predecessor to the MP3
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Nice Bike- is that an AMF Hercules?
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Nice Bike- is that an AMF Hercules?
Indeed, it is an AMF Hercules. I can't see the lugs, but the fork crown indicates it is likely a Pre-Raleigh bike.
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I thought for sure this was going to be Grant Petersen
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I thought for sure this was going to be Grant Petersen
Perhaps they are one and the same. Ron and Grant do share a characteristic or three.
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I thought for sure this was going to be Grant Petersen
I had guessed the same! I don't know why I made this mistake.

Either pro or con, my house has been called at least 50 times over the weekend by someone mentioning Dr. Paul's name.

Yet I'm still undecided as to who I will vote for in the NH Primary tomorrow. I guess I'm pretty typical!
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Did you see him with the "earbud"? Wow, the predecessor to the MP3
He was monitoring alien transmissions. Still doing so today.
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Believe it or not, that's a Raleigh-made AMF, just like this one:

From: http://threespeedbicycles.com/AMF_Hercules.html


And this one:

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Believe it or not, that's a Raleigh-made AMF, just like this one:

From: http://threespeedbicycles.com/AMF_Hercules.html


And this one:

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But I notice that neither of these have the chrome fork socks.....

Mine had plain old black fenders. It served me well through several incarnations.
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Great pic.
Aren't all AMF Hercules, Raleighs?
Oh, I see the answer above, thanks Kurt.
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But I notice that neither of these have the chrome fork socks...
Doesn't make a bit of difference. Throughout their run, the AMF-Hercules models varied from spartan to the most Americanized-looking Raleigh Sports incarnations possible. Chromed fork ends were occasionally the case, as on Ron Paul's AMF-Herc.

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Funny...I assumed he'd have something German
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There have been recent pics of him riding bikes as well. Can't remember the model.
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I had guessed the same! I don't know why I made this mistake.

Either pro or con, my house has been called at least 50 times over the weekend by someone mentioning Dr. Paul's name.

Yet I'm still undecided as to who I will vote for in the NH Primary tomorrow. I guess I'm pretty typical!
I can imagine you will just be happy when they have all gone somewhere else, eh?
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Doesn't make a bit of difference. Throughout their run, the AMF-Hercules models varied from spartan to the most Americanized-looking Raleigh Sports incarnations possible. Chromed fork ends were occasionally the case, as on Ron Paul's AMF-Herc.

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Cool. While I do not actively seek out photos of AMF Hercs, I do tend to notice them since I owned one. That is the first one I have seen with the chrome.
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Believe it or not, that's a Raleigh-made AMF, just like this one:

From: http://threespeedbicycles.com/AMF_Hercules.html

And this one:
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Kurt, you are probably right. The thing that threw is that the chrome on the fork crown looks like that of a Birmingham Hercules. The Raleigh versions had the shorter chromed crown.
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I think we can post without getting into politics. I wish I had a picture of me like that on my dad's JC Higgins, my impression is the Higgins was a little bit nicer bike in ways that matter. Didn't have as much chrome though.
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I respectfully disagree about being able to discuss this thread without politics entering into it. Were it a legitimate politician I would agree...but when it's someone who has had his name attached to some truly offensive things, and said some truly offensive things, I really don't think talking about his bicycle in a neutral manner is realistic. It reads as..."let's discuss Nathan Bedford Forrests lawnmower".

I also disagree as to the bike being great, but that's another matter.

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But I notice that neither of these have the chrome fork socks.....

Mine had plain old black fenders. It served me well through several incarnations.
Interestingly, the only Birmingham Hercules that I have identified with any chrome on the fork legs is in the 1949 Hercules catalog and was the Hercules Kestrel Super Club. I have yet to see any pictures of Birmingham Hercules with chromed forks or chromed fork bottoms (socks).

Interestingly, according to Mike Gerrish (MikeG41 here on the forums), the cycling team frames were actually built by Ted Woodall and there is a blurb about his role in building them for Hercules here.


Hercules Kestrel Super Club ('531' Tubing) by Abaraphobia, on Flickr
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I had to google Nathan Bedford Forrest. I cite wikipedia: 'Not for nothing did Forrest say the essence of strategy was 'to git thar fust with the most men"'. That's very much a Cav statement.

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I also disagree as to the bike being great, but that's another matter.
Blasphemy!! Once again you are showing your bias against IGH bicycles. Too bad...
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Blasphemy!! Once again you are showing your bias against IGH bicycles. Too bad...
I just do it to twist your tail
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