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Old 01-10-12, 03:57 AM   #1
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Question about my colnago master (piu?)

Hello everyone,

I'm new here, so here's a short introduction: i'm Jonas, i'm from Belgium and i like cycling!
I usually ride my fixed gear bike in the city, but i was looking around the internet to buy a classic geared road bike.

Recently i came across this colnago master. The frame is build up with a complete suntour superbe pro group and campagnolo record hubs, all in decent condition.

Now for the question: The top tube of this bike says "master PIU", however, it hasn't got the internal rear brake cable. So i was wondering if it could be a "piu".
I also included a photo of the bb shell, showing the number "570" imprinted there.
Is this some kind of serial number? (It is not the bike's size in mm as i first thought, the bike is 60cm center to top.)

Also, i bought this bike without pedals. THe ones shown in the pictures are my track pedals i took of my fixed for a test drive. Any ideas for nice pedals to buy for this frame?

Any info on this bike is much appreciated!



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Old 01-10-12, 04:29 AM   #2
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Vintage or not, I always run mountain bike clip in pedals on all of my rides. Though anything but period correct, they are the best way to go for riding purposes. When you want to take pictures, you can always install a set of Campagnolo pedals, if you wish.

These pedals are fitted to an early seventies Maserati. Yes they look wrong but they work so well that I use them anyway, and as mentioned, on all of my bikes...
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I thought the Master Piu's had internal cable routing too. It looks like the frame has a race number lug brazed under the top tube. Nice bike - nice groupset. I'd try to locate a pair of Suntour Superbe pro pedals to go with the grupeset - either track or road.
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I've never ridden with clip-in pedals, but friends (amateur road-bike racers) tell me they're much better then traditional paltform-with-clips, so i'll definatly consider them.
The superbe pro pedals would be the best, if i can find them for a good price. (Looked on ebay, they go for 75-100$, a bit to expensive i think.)
And i was wondering what that ring underneath the top tube was for, fixing a number plate could very well be it, thanks for that
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Vintage or not, I always run mountain bike clip in pedals on all of my rides. Though anything but period correct, they are the best way to go for riding purposes. When you want to take pictures, you can always install a set of Campagnolo pedals, if you wish.

These pedals are fitted to an early seventies Maserati. Yes they look wrong but they work so well that I use them anyway, and as mentioned, on all of my bikes...
+1...all my bikes get SPDs. Even if they look ugly, they're the most practical option and I can't have multiple pedal sysems/shoes.

I've kept a couple pairs of campy trap pedals and a set of Looks that came off of flips around for photos.
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Welcome to the forums Jonas.

Don't forget to toss a pic of that beauty in the Colnago thread when you have an opportunity.

I'll be looking for a Master Piu and an Arabesque in the next couple of years.

Yours is a beauty.

More close up pics please.

I also struggle with this pedal system issue.

I ended up running spds on any bicycle I would ride around the lakes and for touring.

Or MKS touring pedals and a ratty old set of Campy pedals usually can be found on some of our bicycles.

I usually get these dirt cheap on CL or at our annual swap meet.

Otherwise, I use Shimano SPD-SLs of various models on my racing bicycles.

No great reason, it's what I grew up with, and I've had no issue throughout the years.

Problem is, I ended up with several pairs of riding shoes to accommodate the system on any given bicycle.

Heck, I think I even have some Looks around here!
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Thanks!
I will take some more pictures of all the details on this bike next weekend, when i have time in the daylight.
I'll also try to find a nicer background, although that's going to be hard
But i couldn't find the colnago thread you were talking about?
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Thanks!
I will take some more pictures of all the details on this bike next weekend, when i have time in the daylight.
I'll also try to find a nicer background, although that's going to be hard
But i couldn't find the colnago thread you were talking about?
Here you go!

Feast your eyes on this bounty.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...abesque-Master...
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Ok, I contacted colnago about my original question (the internal cable piu thing), and they say no such bikes were made.
This means it is a "normal" master, wich has been repainted (or just had "PIU" added to the paint job).
Anyway, still a nice bike to me, more pic's coming tomorrow!

And also, I decided to go with spd's, thanks all for the advice!
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Yeah, that makes sense. With the race number boss brazed under the top tube I would guess that your bike had a racing history. I have an old (80's) Colnago Super frame with a race number braze-on and my bike was a Belgian trade team bike. It has a pretty ordinary paint scheme and I have often thought of re-painting it - maybe your bike had a similar history.
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Sorry about the delay, but here are some more pictures!

First of all, i'll give a complete setup of the bike (I took the listing system from velospace foor this so i wouldn't miss anything)



The complete bike, with original wheels in the background

Frame / Size / Year:
Colango Master / 60cm / 1986-87 (estimate)

Handlebars / Stem:
3TTT Superlegero / 3TTT

Fork / Headset:
original colango fork, columbus tubing (a bit rusty) / Hattaswan headset, no idea which type

Front Wheel / Hub / Rim / Tire:
Mavic MA40 / Colnago record hub / vittoria tire

Rear Wheel / Hub / Rim / Tire:
Mavic MA40 / colango record hub / vittoria tire

Crankset / Bottom Bracket:
Suntour superbe pro / campagnolo (no idea which type)

Saddle / Seat Post:
San Marco Rolls (1986) / suntour superbe pro

Pedals / Chain:
none for the moment, spd's coming up / sedis

Shifters / Derailers:
front: suntour superbe pro
rear: suntour superbe pro
shifters: suntour superbe pro (front shifter could be different)

Brakes / Brake Levers:
suntour superbe pro / suntour superbe pro aero levers

Gearing / Chainring / Misc.:
front: 53 and 41
rear: 8-speed cassette not sure which sizes.
Original wheel details:

Ambrosio rims
Rear hub: Suntour superbe pro with 7-speed cassette
Front hub: Campagnolo record, ernesto colango engraved

detail: rear rim has a sticker saying "superconfex", indicating this bike could be used by the 1987-1989 pro team (now known as Rabobank)

And now: Pictures!
















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And some close-up pics of the original wheels:










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Also, another question:

The brake hoods are completely endured, cracked and torn.
Any suggestions for replacement hoods that will fit?
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eBay for the brake hoods.
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Nice ride! For pedals, I recommend Shimano SPD-SLs, Look Keos, or Speedplays. I'm currently using SPD-SLs, which I find to have the best combination of durability, economy, and performance. The Keos are usually lighter and slightly easier to get in and out of, and the Speedplays are nice, but have more expensive and fussier cleats (a wear item), but they do offer the most float. In my opinion, it's worth it to go with a road clipless pedal for the more positive foot retention, greater float options, and larger platform.
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Nice ride! For pedals, I recommend Shimano SPD-SLs, Look Keos, or Speedplays. I'm currently using SPD-SLs, which I find to have the best combination of durability, economy, and performance. The Keos are usually lighter and slightly easier to get in and out of, and the Speedplays are nice, but have more expensive and fussier cleats (a wear item), but they do offer the most float. In my opinion, it's worth it to go with a road clipless pedal for the more positive foot retention, greater float options, and larger platform.
+1

I have pretty much settled on Shimano spd-sls as well.

I get a season out of the cleats, which is about the same wear rate for the heels on my Sidis.

For off road I have Crank Brothers pedals with Sidi Dragons.

Unbeatable combo for me.
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This is a Edwig Van Hooydonck on his 1989 colnago master, equipped with a suntour superbe pro group.
apparently, 1987 and 1988 superconfex colnago's had campy stuff on it.
in 1990 buckler replaced superconfex as main sponsor, while suntour was also an official sponsor of the team.

So if my bike is legit, it's probably from 1989.

*edit:
found another one

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