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Old 01-24-12, 12:28 AM   #1
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1994(or thereabouts) Bianchi Campione D'Italia all Italian Build!

So although this bike is almost complete, I have decided to create a build thread. This started out as a lonely frame I won on ebay and had no initial plans for it. For about a week it sat in the backseat of my hatchback under a blanket so no one would know I had it. I guess the Campy bug bit me during that time and decided I wanted to build it with DT shifters. But I also wanted a modern shifting bike. I recently put a pair of 9 speed Dura ace DT shifters on my Crosscheck and fell in love with shifting a modern drivetrain with a pair of dt shifters, especially friction front shifting. I knew from previous sleuthing that it was possible to use bar-end shifters without their pods as dts. While I was researching that more(and discovering that it would be very expensive), I figured out a better way. The indexing gear in every dt/bar-end shifter is the same(adjusting the gear for increments of speed) post '94(?). I bought a pair of nos veloce shifters from campyoldy and a 10 speed index gear from branford bikes. Everything else on the bike has just been good deals as I find them. So far all the components are italian with the exception of the stem and rims(both mavic) For now I will leave you with a few pictures of the frame after I un-boxed it at work. More later.




That crack is only in the plastic covering of the headset, nothing disastrous

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Old 01-24-12, 12:54 AM   #2
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Like!...Techy gearing stuff, mixing components, good stuff. I’d look at the drivetrain you hope to use and work backwards. Double, triple? If you’re going 9 spd, there may be issues. At least you have the DA barcons. In friction mode, I believe they can do anything.
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I forgot to mention that I have pretty much every part required for this bike. Record 10speed RD, Record FD, Veloce crankset, Veloce 8speed shifters with 10 speed gear,Record wheelset, Veloce brakeset, C-Record seatpost, chorus cassette(in the mail!), modolo levers, cinelli bars(in the mail!).

Pictures of components/bike in almost-complete state later.
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Nice. Frame looks to be in awesome shape.
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Frame looks great, but I'm not digging that unicrown style fork. Would it be blasphemous to change out the fork with an earlier one (from another Bianchi) with a nice investment cast sloping fork crown instead? A fully chromed fork would also brighten the bike nicely.........Just a suggestion...

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I'm not so into the fork either, but its what came with the frame and i havent found a suitable replacement.
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I'm not so into the fork either, but its what came with the frame and i havent found a suitable replacement.
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Don't think I want to put a carbon fork on here. I'm going to measure the rake when I get home and see about finding a chrome replacement .
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Don't think I want to put a carbon fork on here. I'm going to measure the rake when I get home and see about finding a chrome replacement .
In addition to measuring original fork rake, take a measurement of the frame HTA and perhaps consider a replacement with a non-original rake to better optimize the fork trail measurement to suit your purpose. Plug the HTA and rake into fork trail calculator at;
http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php

Large manufactures are notorious for using identically raked forks over all sizes/angles of thier frame rather than custom fitting the rake to the HTA to achieve a specific desired trail, sometimes produces less than optimal trail. Also take into account the fork A-C measurement and consider what change that may cause if you go to a shorter A-C fork, unicrown forks tend to have a rather large A-C. 20mm change of A-C will alter your frame angles by 1 degree.
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Maybe one of these would work: http://www.retro-gression.com/category/frames-forks
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Aesthetics nonwithstanding, I have heard from a few people that upgrading the stock steel fork with a carbon one was almost de rigueur among roadies in the 1990s.
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Purdy!!

I also think it'll look better with a chrome fork instead of CF. But don't rush into it until who've ridden it with the original fork.
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In addition to measuring original fork rake, take a measurement of the frame HTA and perhaps consider a replacement with a non-original rake to better optimize the fork trail measurement to suit your purpose. Plug the HTA and rake into fork trail calculator at;
http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php

Large manufactures are notorious for using identically raked forks over all sizes/angles of thier frame rather than custom fitting the rake to the HTA to achieve a specific desired trail, sometimes produces less than optimal trail. Also take into account the fork A-C measurement and consider what change that may cause if you go to a shorter A-C fork, unicrown forks tend to have a rather large A-C. 20mm change of A-C will alter your frame angles by 1 degree.
I knew about trying to get measurements the same, but I hadn't thought about changing the rake for a more suitable ride. Thanks for that link.

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Purdy!!

I also think it'll look better with a chrome fork instead of CF. But don't rush into it until who've ridden it with the original fork.
Thanks! Im def not going to replace it in the near future, it will be later on down the road, I'l probably get a campy hs at the same time.
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Promised pictures:

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RD:

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Cranks(rings coming! Thanks thirdgenbird!)

Relatively complete bike:

I have a matching pair of wheels coming from DC, I bought a front hub to build a matching wheel to the back one, but it's cheaper this way. I also have some Cinelli bars coming and have a cinelli to replace that mile long Mavic
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Looks nice!
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It looks much better with that silver wheel. I don't much care for the black one it replaced, black with silver brake track, eww
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that looks great. i love that color. hopefully your rings arrive by saturday.

this bike makes me second think selling my record bar end shifters. i currently have them on pauls thumbies (the original mounts cracked) but they would make good downtubes. ive got both an 8 and a 10spd ring for them.
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Nice frame and a good build you've got going. Interesting tweak with downtube shifters on a 10 speed setup. Looks classic.
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This is going to be nice! I'm really digging the mismatched modern campy.
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Thanks y'all(My true colors are showing)

Hopefully my cassette comes in next week and I can take care of a slight problem with the seatpost clamp so I can get this beast rolling!
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Lookin' good!!! How long is that stem? Looks like a 140.
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I have a question concerning my seatpost clamp issue. My binder bolt is about 28mm wide fully tightened. My problem is that when tightened fully, it doesn't catch the frame on the side being tightened. It had about 1mm of washers on the side being tightened between the head of the bolt and the frame. With another 1mm washer, I was able to get the post to at least stay in position, but with a slight touch, it moves. I wanted to eventually get a Campagnolo bolt, so I guess now's my chance. The campy bolts are 19mm, will that work?

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Its a 130 I bought off of craigslist for 5 bucks. The ad said it was a cinelli, but no big deal, same clamp size.
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My binder bolt is about 28mm wide fully tightened. My problem is that when tightened fully, it doesn't catch the frame on the side being tightened.The campy bolts are 19mm, will that work?
When I had this problem I used a bench grinder to shorten both the "nut" and "bolt" end of my binder until it all worked together.

Estimate that when tightened, the ears are about 25mm wide. Guess that when the Campy bolt is tightened all the way to 19mm the "bolt" part is flush with the outside of the "nut" part.

If those guesses and estimates are correct, you'd have 13mm of thread engagement in the middle of the Campy bolt with the seat tight. I don't know how much is enough, but that's half an inch... I'd ride it.
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I always loved that color and I am pretty sure the year is correct '94. I believe that was the only year they uses the full title and not simply Campione on a Japanese (or wherever bike)

I am sure someone brought this up but the color would be the biggest issue on the fork. finding a nice crowned crhome fork can be pricey but if you really want to do it I would use the Soma Staight Blade track fork for about $150ish

BTW your making me feel bad about only going with Veloce on my Batavus build
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I am sure someone brought this up but the color would be the biggest issue on the fork. finding a nice crowned crhome fork can be pricey but if you really want to do it I would use the Soma Staight Blade track fork for about $150ish
If all goes according to plan, I'd have a chrome fork, so color wouldn't be an issue. I have a nice tange on my track bike I may cannibalize.

Thanks for the comments, so far I've spent less than 800 dollars on her.
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