orangeology

not trying to commit blasphemy here. outta pure curiosity, in fact.
could there be a C&V friendly—or at least tolerable—1" carbon fork?

i do see some 'hybrid' 1" carbon forks around—those with aluminum threaded stem + carbon legs
in a slightly 'older' style than the contemporary, beefy, straight, monocoque sorta, 1 1/8" ones.

been just wondering although i know the era those thing was introduced wouldn't exactly match the C&V era.
could there be specific ones i'd need to look for if i'd ever want to build one with carbon fork still in the world of classic L&F?

many thanks for your kind inputs in advance!

buldogge

There were a bunch of decent 1" threaded CF forks. Serotta F1 and Kestrel EMS for exmple. There are still some available as well...Wound-Up for sure.

In threadless, there were F1s, Kestrel EMS Pro, Time Featherlights, and Look HSCs to start.

For new production threadless, I would look at the Columbus Minimal or Ritchey Pro...Serotta F3 if you can stomach the $600 price tag!

just dank

also curious, i know nashbar makes one but the blades are a little too fat for my liking

noglider 

buldogge, are you saying that it's possible to replace a 1" threaded fork with a threadless fork?

Are there any lower-priced such carbon forks? I might pay $100 or $200, but not more.

Puget Pounder

You can certainly do it. All you need is a new threadless headset. Nashbar CF is probably the cheapest you will find.

Personally, I opt for a good condition Reynolds Ouzo.

kaliayev

Wound Up makes a nice 1" fork in threaded or threadless.

kaliayev

If you hit Wiggle at the right time I have seen them selling the Columbus Minimal for $202 shipped.

RobbieTunes

The Performance and Nashbar 1" threaded forks are generally about as thin as you're going to get in CF, unless you run across a particularly older model. Removing the lettering on some helps to make them look skinnier. I've tried 1" threaded CF forks on several bikes, always return to the OEM. So far, anyway. I'd think $100 would easily buy you a decent one.

The conversion is not hard to 1" threadless, but appearance-wise, sometimes they look a little out of place. For Cannondales, it's a great idea, in my opinion.

kaliayev

The old Time Pro Equip threaded is thin. Nice fork and pretty light for a steel steerer. Easton made a few carbon forks as well as Kinesis.

orangeology

thanks for all the infos, folks!

Chrome Molly

I have the Nashbar 1 inch threaded fork on two of my bikes. It's OK, but not a significant weight saver compared to steel (especially if you have a long steerer tube). The steel forks that I have ride about the same, descend better, and brake hard much better. Ride on both carbon and steel is pretty good though. On the bikes that the CF forks are mounted on, they were bare frames when they came to me. I'd do the carbon over aluminum, but if you have the original steel bike and it's cromo, I'd leave well enough alone. To really save weight you need a carbon steerer, and nothing in 1 inch is reasonably priced.

kaliayev

A nice steel fork in 1" (531/SL/etc) is not easy to find or cheap either though. Not to knock the Nashbar cf fork, but it's quality is not that great. I have a 1" Reynolds Ouzo Pro on a vintage frame and a 1" Columbus Muscle on a modern 853 steel frame and have had zero problems braking or descending. I do agree that unless you need a fork for a build or want to drop some weight your probably just as well off sticking with the original steel fork.

RFC

+1 The Nashbar CF fork fits the C&V motif very nicely. Given the limited number of name brand manufacturers in this area, undoubtably built by one. I have ridden this fork and like very much. Watch for a 20% off sale and pick it up for about $70.

buldogge

I just ordered up one of the Minimals from Wiggle for $200...couldn't pass it up. I'm gonna replace the Time Featherlight on my Chesini which is a little lightweight for my size (185#).

oldskoolwrench

This may be a dead end, but what about trying a local LBS that might have 'take off' forks, like the carbon forks off older Treks and LeMonds that are oval shaped rather than bladed? I know they'll probably be heavier, but perhaps better manufacturing quality than the current crop of aftermarket forks, and might be around in a 1" threaded size.

Just a thought...

orangeology

not a bad idea at all, indeed.

thanks for all the infos, folks. really helped me organize the plan. really appreciated.

orangeology

by far this is the best looking and functioning option, i vote.
it's slightly more than 200 on Wiggle, although it seems the best price.
will keep searching. thanks!

btw,
'cutting off' the carbon steerer—when monocoque—to match the headtube length(with headset unit of course) is FINE, right?

jyl

Can you drill out the steel steerer tube to reduce weight?

It seems to me that the stresses on this part are pretty low. Minimal torque. No compression. No tension. No bending. Why does all that steel have to be there?

Puget Pounder

I would install the fork with the steerer tube 2" too tall then you think you need it at first. Adjust the stem as necessary after for a few weeks on long rides. Then do the final cut.

buldogge

$200.xx with code 10-OFF...ordered this morning.

You cut CF steerers with a fine tooth hacksaw blade and a cutting guide (ie Park Tool, or at least a pair of hose clamps).

Leave 5 mm of steerer above the stem and use a 10mm spacer above the stem at your final cut. First cut should leave room for 20mm below and above, allowing for fine tuning and final stem/angle selection.

kaliayev

A Dremel works really well also.

orangeology

i... did it.
all i remember is that just went to Wiggle just to check if the code still works.
when my consciousness was back in commission, there was a receipt in my hands.
i... am just gonna see if it's still attractive as in the photo when delivered. that's it...
i could really "decide" when i see it, right?


thanks for the code, @buldogge

//
i've actually checked a few shops in NYC today to check any luck.
one small mtb shop in chinatown surprisingly had one 1" road fork loose.
owner said they wouldn't usually have it, that was for one of their customers.
it was Kinetic—don't remember the model name—and i did not like its bulkiness and, most of all, the weight.
it was an integrated one with alloy steerer tube, and i couldn't even fill any big difference with a steel fork...

oldskoolwrench

If it was an older fork, that's what the technology was back then; trying to balance ride quality with some level of longevity.

I don't have enough experience with the current crop of CF forks to know what their lifespan really is.

Glad you found the fork you wanted, though!

orangeology

yup. i hear you.
just wanted to see what it looks like.
still feel like i am doing some kinda blasphemy. a carbon fork... what am i doing?
perhaps a little bit, just a little bit, get terribly comfy by the red bird decal, i guess?

mtbikerjohn 

I have a Columbus Minimal on my Casati..bought it at Wiggle also...It does look as good in person as on the site, and it rides really nice,too...I think you're going to be very happy with it