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Old 02-01-12, 07:25 PM   #1
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"W V" headtube decal, anybody recognize this logo?

Nothing fancy, just curious.

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Old 02-01-12, 07:35 PM   #2
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Wotza Vock ?

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I had dyslexia and read the title as "V W." I don't have anything else to add. Carry on.
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Those are European style letters.
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Is that a Dia Compe 810 on the front?
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its a dia compe, not sure how to tell if its an 810. Here's the bike

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its a dia compe, not sure how to tell if its an 810.
All Dia Compes are stamped with the model number on the back, I believe.
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Is that a Dia Compe 810 on the front?
It's a Dia-Compe Useless.
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Sometimes "WV" is just "WV".
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Is that a Dia Compe 810 on the front?
It's a Dia-Compe Useless.

As for the bicycle, maybe a WolksVagon.
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Maybe I'm just slow and you knew this before asking, but...the decal looks like a late addition -- maybe the initials of the same person who re-did the paint, cranks, rims, and brake levers? The frame looks like a Peugeot to me (though I could be way wrong about that).
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Maybe I'm just slow and you knew this before asking, but...the decal looks like a late addition -- maybe the initials of the same person who re-did the paint, cranks, rims, and brake levers? The frame looks like a Peugeot to me (though I could be way wrong about that).
If it is a Pug, it's a pretty decent one-- note the integral derailleur hanger (PR65?) and the front fork rack braze ons. There appears to be a tubing sticker-- what's it read? As well, are there any marking on the dropouts indicating manufacture/origin? What the BB threading, if you can read it? Seat post diameter?

All these can provide some clues, perhaps narrowing it down to at least the nation of manufacture, or perhaps only telling us how good the frame is. But to my eyes, it looks like a decent frame. Also, what size are the tires? It looks like it can fit whoppers
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Old 02-03-12, 10:50 PM   #19
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GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.. oops caps lock... I recall it being some sort of hi-ten tubing, its nothing too special although the bike is surprisingly light, 20-25 lbs maybe.

I dont' think its been repainted, i don't know who'd care to put the hi-ten tubing sticker back on after a repaint. I had though that the heatube decals could be someones initials, but couldn't convince myself of it.
Aside from the lower grade tubes it does seem to be nicely put together, the headlugs, as you can see are quite clean. The fork crown does look peugeot to me...

Oh and it can fit some big tires, no doubt...
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Those head lugs have the look of fakes to me. I had a Miyata 210 mixte, where I thought the work looked really nice.... turned out the head lugs were not real in the usual sense. Look at the difference in thickness between the fork crown and the head lugs.
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i do see, so you think its like a 1 piece forged headtube or something?
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i do see, so you think its like a 1 piece forged headtube or something?
Usually it's a one piece stamping, with a welded seam at the back. However, the seam is often hard to detect externally. The best way to determine the construction is to remove the fork. Since the lugs and head tube are stamped from a single flat piece of metal, which is then formed and welded, the ends of the top and down are visible, unlike a traditional head tube, which is a continuous cylinder, with only small vent holes. The welded seem is also typically visible on the inside. See attached picture. Sorry for the quality, but it's hard to illuminate the inside of the tube. Hopefully, you'll get the idea.

The serial number may give us a clue to the frame's origin.
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